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Long Tubes Headers and the Truth....

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LoudToy958

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Got your attention with that title ehhhhh.

Okay, here is the skinny.

ALL OF YOU NEED LONG TUBES IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM.
Yes- I have had shorties in the past on another car.................................

Got my car out on the road today for the first time.


WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not only do they sound awesome, I went from 2 High flow cats to O/R H. Deffinate SOTP difference. It just howls. Nice idle, little soft on excelleration, then when you get to the upper RPM's, it just Roars..........

GO GET UM GUYS.............................LT
 

BlueOvalStangGT

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Thanks for that excellent write up.
 

super302

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BlueOvalStangGT said:
Thanks for that excellent write up.
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how bad was the install
 

LoudToy958

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super302 said:



how bad was the install
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I did the install by myself. If I had a helper, it would have been much easier. I just took my time. It wasn't hard, it just requires patience. I did the engine lift thing for the passenger side. Wasn't hard. If you can do a brake job, you have what it takes to do this. Just take your time.

It also helps if you remove all the smog equipment, and have a set of ratcheting wrenches.

I think the hardest part was bending the dipstick tube into a configuration that was usable. I did it, just took a few trys. I also put on the lowering springs, and have gone over a few normal speed bums, and some steeper entrances. No scrapes yet. I just took them slow and at an angle.

I just love the howl. Puts a on my face....................LT
 

DFG 5OH

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nice.
 
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which ones did u get, and can u take me for a ride,lolz
 

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i just did an identical swap at the same time as loudtoy and i can tell you he isn't lying. I have a very noticable sotp feel and the things got rid of my drone from the dumps and it screams up top!!!!

I agree GET THEM!!

the install wasnt to bad. I also did it by myself the only thing i got help on was getting the h pipe into place.


also Loudtoy because of the crash i never got a reply from you on whether you ran the dipstick around all the tubes or through them.
 

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he got the bbk long tubes and o/r h-pipe.
 

cavscout371

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bought'em already anybody want to give me an extra foot so I can put em on
 

GRGT1994

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So what brand did you go with? Ceramic coated or chrome?
 

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Well worth the extra effort!!! Ceramic coating is the best way to go. You only want to install them one time and one time only!!!!!
 

nmcgrawj

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I installed BBK ceramic long tubes and the dipstick just bent a tad bit outside of them between the headers and the fuse box area.
 

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thanks.

btw your stang isn't "basically stock"

your so moddest!:
 

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LoudToy958 said:
I did the install by myself. If I had a helper, it would have been much easier. I just took my time. It wasn't hard, it just requires patience. I did the engine lift thing for the passenger side. Wasn't hard. If you can do a brake job, you have what it takes to do this. Just take your time.

It also helps if you remove all the smog equipment, and have a set of ratcheting wrenches.

I think the hardest part was bending the dipstick tube into a configuration that was usable. I did it, just took a few trys. I also put on the lowering springs, and have gone over a few normal speed bums, and some steeper entrances. No scrapes yet. I just took them slow and at an angle.

I just love the howl. Puts a on my face....................LT
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Well I'll be getting my LT's as soon as I get your Dr. gas!
Humm wonder how that combo will sound
1.bbk ceramic LT's
2.Dr. Gas X pipe
3.SLP catback
Sound like a screaming demon to me!
 

nmcgrawj

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mootang said:
thanks.

btw your stang isn't "basically stock"

your so moddest!:
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haha...yea....after this past winter, it really isnt
 

LoudToy958

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igotyofire said:
which ones did u get, and can u take me for a ride,lolz
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Sorry Guys, been workin like crazy here. One of the Fast Attack Subs pulled in today, so I wanted to help out and see all my friends.

To answer your questions, BBK Ceramic LTs and BBK H(soon to be Ceramic). I see it was already answerd. Thanks for keepin up mootang, and I sent the dipstick tube between two primarys. I heat wrapped it, but you don't need to. I just had a little left from wrapping my starter. I just bent it creatively, and popped it back. After 100 miles, no issues yet. (knock on wood) And yes all, I put 100 miles on her these past few days. SHOCKED!!!!!!!!!

igotyofire, if you are in the San Diego area, sure, we can arange a ride. Alwasys lookin for fellow Mustang owners. Especially StangNeters. There is a show April 3rd close to here. Southwester University or something. It is on the West Coast forum. I am considering going if your interested.


95WhiteVenom - I am sure it will sound amazing. Everyone told me to get this unit, but as I said, my crossmember hangs down anbout 3/4" more than normal. It just wasn't gonna fit. The BBK unit came with enough of a bend to make it fit. I had to bend it a little more than it was, but it worked out. If you look at the site it my sig, you might see the bends I made.

LT
 

94CobraPace

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I didn't think any long tube headers were emisions legal, technicly??
They can pass the sniffer but fail on visual if they are seen.
 

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LoudToy958 said:
Nice idle, little soft on excelleration, then when you get to the upper RPM's, it just Roars..........

GO GET UM GUYS.............................LT
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So you DID notice a little low end torque loss?
 

LoudToy958

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SWYZ721 said:
So you DID notice a little low end torque loss?
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Not really. I am sure there was a little, but it is deffinatly made up in the upper RPM range. Seems like there is a little more room in first, and a little less in second. When you hit third, BIG difference.

LTs really aren't emissions legal in states that require the carb numbers like California here. I have my car registered as a collector car, so I will never have to worry about smog. Also, I don't even put 2000 miles a year on the car. You can pass the sniffer, but I would check around to be sure.

Personally, If I had to deal with smog, it would only be every other year. I deffinatly wouldn't have a problem doing a swap once every two years. I bought the car to work on it. It wasn't that hard that I wouldn't do it again, especially for the sound . Just my opinion........................LT
 
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SWYZ721 said:
So you DID notice a little low end torque loss?
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I noticed 0 low-end loss when I did my BBK LTs. The midrange (~2-4k) picks up some pretty noticable SOTP power too.
 
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