looking at a 94 gt vert.. but its been sitting

1phatgt · Apr 11, 2004

heres the deal. i've been working at an apartment complex for the past month and this 94 gt caught my eye. anyway, i looked the car up in the parking directory and it's a 94 vert (wasnt sure of the year). it's got a 1999 inspection sticker on it which tells me its been sitting... i know it was under a cover for a while. and it only has 39xxx miles on it. now here comes the clincher. with a new battery, what are the odds of this cannonball starting up without snapping some internals? im going to track down the owner and make him an offer if it starts up.. lol. otherwise beautiful car though. anyone have ideas?

HDS · Apr 11, 2004

Depending on how long it's been sitting. It could start or not. Also it might need some work. Things get clogged up and what not.

If it's for a fair price, and your going to mod it. Go for it!!

1phatgt · Apr 11, 2004

yeah i need to contact the owner and make an offer. i already have a 1990 GT.. i gotta sell that to make some room

331 cobra · Apr 11, 2004

It depends on why they parked it.

I just fired up my Cobra for the first time in months. I finally have a garage large enough to work in, so had to move it to get started. I tried to jump it, but the battery was completely dead. After a quick trip to the parts store for a new batery, it fired up on the first shot.

Hopefully it will do the same, but I would not park a nice mustang for four years unless I had a really good reason. My guess is that it had some type of engine failure from 139,000 miles in 5 years. Depending on the mechanical condition, you might be able to get it dirt cheap. I got my Cobra for under $4,000 because of a front end colision. Four years of neglect is probably bigger leverage than I had bargaining for my Cobra.

My advice is have a friend inquire about the car and really low ball it, like $1500, if they accept, pay up and take it. If not, wait a few weeks and go back yourself with a better offer. But watch the papers to make sure they don't list it dirt cheap and sell it out from under you.

Good luck.

1phatgt · Apr 11, 2004

just out of curiosity.. are the odomoters on sn95's 5 digit or 6 digit? i doubt that car had 139k miles put on it in 5 years. the paints isnt even showing signs of wear. like i checked this thing out head to toe.. everything except for the heart of the beast. hypothetically speaking, if its been sitting for a year or two.. what are the odds of this thing starting right up if a new battery was put in it?

mstangfrk95GTS! · Apr 11, 2004

dude 39k not 139k!!!

talk to the owner.

1phatgt · Apr 11, 2004

anyone think it's gonna kick over with a good battery and some good gas?

mstangfrk95GTS! · Apr 11, 2004

me!!
course then id flush the motor and change the oil pronto!!!

then all other fluids and a tune up

331 cobra · Apr 11, 2004

sorry, I didn't remember that they have 6 digit odometers. On the other hand, I can't understand why someone would park a car at 39,000. If something broke, it would be covered under waranty I think. It could belong to some body that died or went in to the military and left it behind.

You might have found the proverbial '32 ford roadster in a barn with no rust.

Mrgreen94gt · Apr 11, 2004

A friend of mine's grandfather gave him an old early 60's Ford station wagon, Country Squire I think. It had been sitting from 1983, or something to that effect, until 2001. Hooked a battery to it and it started right up and tried to move forward when put in drive, on flat tires half buried in the ground.

If that car started up just fine, that Mustang should as well.

Go for it!

blown93feature · Apr 11, 2004

I would check the fluids especially the gas because that **** goes bad in thirty days.I personally would check the car over extensively and not start it if you feel good about what your seeing and then ramp it home and do a complete fluid change from radiator to rear end.I would ask the owner if he has started the car from time to time because all the seals dry out and hoses and belts do as well.I would check the tires to see if there is any indication of flat spots and dryrot.

Good luck.

blackGT94 · Apr 11, 2004

should start up without ne problems.Maybe a couple injectors or watnot may be clogged but i doubt it.Wat do u mean snap ne internals??? i dont believ that ne of the rods or pistons are going to be in that bad of shape man lol. Hell if u tear that motor down i bet it looks like brand new. oh yeah check for the freeze plugs to be popped out. because if it has set in the winter without ne antifreeze u may be in trouble. thats a good find though hell that motor isnt even in it s prime yet lol good luck with it

Josh94gt · Apr 11, 2004

I don't do much prep work to my 'stang when i store it. Just put it on blocks, some dry gas in the tank, and 70/30 antifreeze/water mix. That's about it. And mine starts up no problem every spring. I would see if it will start breifly, maybe let it warm up at an idle, then shut it off and swap ALL the fluids/oil/etc. before driving it. Also the tires probably have some dry rot. You might need to replace the hoses as well if they dried up and are in bad shape. But if you can get it for like $3-$5k, it's totally worth it.

1phatgt · Apr 11, 2004

sick.. i like what im hearing. because it's easter im going to wait until tomorrow night to inquire. if it starts up then i'll be stoked. i need to find out what kind of owner this guy is.. they own this car and a 1994 isuzu trooper. so who knows.

331 cobra · Apr 11, 2004

If you give them a low ball offer, they will probably reject it. If you let them think about it for a few weeks, they will probably think about how they are not getting any use out of it, and how they could spend the money. That's when you go in and make the kill. The tricky part is that the low ball offer will insult them. Some people would rather sell a car for less money than sell it to someone that they feel has insulted them.

So figure out how much it's worth from what you know, then a table of deductions for problems you find. Give a friend a list of questions to ask, this way, your friend delivers the insult. Have your friend call you while he's talking about the car, calculate it's value, then multiply that by about 3/4, subtract $1,000, that is a pretty good lowball, or else, use a number that sounds good to you. Just make sure that lowball is at least $1,000 less than you are willing to pay. If they take it, you got a screaming deal, if they don't, when you go back about a month later, you can offer them $500 more and still have some bargaining room.

Every one wants to think that they got a good deal. You have to lower their expectations if you are going to get a great deal.

HDS · Apr 12, 2004

I saw an episode of trucks where a truck had been sitting for a few years. The gas had turned into like glue or something. The oil was messed up.

331 cobra · Apr 12, 2004

Yes, gas will turn in to a substance close to napalm if it sits long enough. It will thicken up to the point that the pump can't move it and it won't burn properly either. I have only seen it happen in older cars that have been sitting a long time.

I think there has to be a few things in place before it will happen. If a car is old enough, all of the heavier trash in all of the gas that has been put in the car will be at the bottom of the tank, if the owner never gets the tank close to empty, the ammount of garbage down there can get pretty high. If the owner parks it when the tank is starting to get low, like 1/4 tank or less, the proportion of trash to gas gets high.

I think it's the combination of time, contaminated gas and possibly moisture and a rusting tank that makes the napalm.

I don't think 4 years is long enough and I don't think the car is old enough to have very much trash in the tank. I don't think it will be a problem in this case.

BLKGTPONY · Apr 12, 2004

Yea let us know what happens

mackey · Apr 12, 2004

My advise is just to not mash on the throttle right away... That could cause some damage for a car that has been sitting for a long while.

urban96 · Apr 12, 2004

should he turn it over a few times b4 he starts it to get all the internals coverd in some oil

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