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gkomo

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I could be wrong but i don't think Blueprint sells just shortblocks?
 

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I dunno either. But if they do, it could be a viable option.
 

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gkomo said:
I could be wrong but i don't think Blueprint sells just shortblocks?
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No, they don't.

The other thing that I factor in in my head where Blueprint is concerned, are their blocks though...

They have their own, new, cast, 4-bolt blocks.

Let's say you're building your own. What block do [you] start with.

Mine is a DART Sportsman. The block and machine work alone came to $3k therebouts.
 
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They do offer short blocks as found on Summit, it's just that there are no Fords offered.

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LILCBRA said:
They do offer short blocks as found on Summit, it's just that there are no Fords offered.

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There is a rumor that they might start selling bare blocks one day but nothing past that, that I've heard.
 
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LILCBRA said:
They do offer short blocks as found on Summit, it's just that there are no Fords offered.

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I wonder if one would contact them if they'd sell one.... That may be worth a shot if someone were looking for something like that.
 

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LILCBRA said:
I wonder if one would contact them if they'd sell one.... That may be worth a shot if someone were looking for something like that.
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It [has] been tried.
 
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If they sold those things bare (no machine work) for say... $1500-ish?


I think they'd go like hotcakes.
 

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LILCBRA said:
I wonder if one would contact them if they'd sell one.... That may be worth a shot if someone were looking for something like that.
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I was told during my phone call with Blueprint less than 1 year ago. that WHEN they can't sell ALL they can build for use in their motors for sale, they MIGHT then offer bare or short blocks......
Its been a moment or two but it seems as if the SBF blocks are thicker and can be bored out further..... Sounded to me ( if I remember correctly) they were thinking when they engineered it...
 
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gkomo said:
Just for reference i got a SUPER rough quote from a local engine builder just to rebuild/machine my 302 and he responded, "A very rough estimate would be $2500-4900; unless we get a very detailed list of parts"

in my email i said i would provide some parts, you would need to provide others, but didn't give him a list or anything. I wasn't expecting anything exact, but this just a ballpark... still cheaper than any other options i'm seeing in this thread.
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In my particular instance I need a Balancer, Carb, intake, distributor ( tach drive distributor) Water pump, and Air cleaner.... Not sure if its Bidenomics or Tariffs but when I looked up hard numbers stuff has really gone up recently..... Just my Summit carb I put on the Mustang a couple of years ago is $100 more than what I paid for it... The complete package, I believe they even start and break them in for you. is in my opinion, the smart way for " cruiser " horsepower...
 
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I believe they even start and break them in for you. is in my opinion, the smart way for " cruiser " horsepower...
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I had not considered that. We should try and find out for sure if they run them before shipping.
 
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My last engine builder or installer must've done that for me because all i did was a quick oil change after X amount of miles if i recall. Never once had an issue with that engine after it was worked on, and i beat on it.
 

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So, what do you think an off-the-shelf 347 should produce at the crank?

Also... Do you have an example?

I mean... My combo cost a lot more. It will [handle] a lot more. Will it make more in NA trim? Probably not.

I would [love] to do a 500+ N/A combo. I've looked into it more than once. I recall three things as it relates to our discussion:

It's expensive
It has solid lifters
Pump gas is 'iffy'
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My buddy used to build them all the time back in the day. (or buy them, some of us used the B block hyper 347 which was only $2200 at the time and no the B block didn't really hold more power).
Always a custom cam, but that was his thing, he always sent every set of heads to machine shop, new or used (which is totally undervalued)
The heads ranged, some were canfields, some high ports, twisted wedges Extrude honed (which i had a set of).
Most would put out somewhere in the 400-425rwhp.
The best being 477rwhp at like 7700rpm with solid lifters. This one actually destroyed the stock block and had to be switched to an R302. One of those few scenarios where the internals could actually be reused.

Honestly, if someone were to build a 347 and accept the fact that it would always be NA, some serious money could be saved on the block and rotating assembly, but i lean towards the idea that enough is never enough and a shortblock is too much effort to be built twice especially with what it costs these days.

Not long ago he and I had a conversation about building a 500rwhp 347 and while possible, his opinion was that it would not have good street manners. Something that my current setup excels at. It probably would have been a change for the worse. Thankfully most of my hair brained pointless ideas for new setups are fleeting, mostly born out of boredom.

I don't have anything against the blueprint engine. I guess it could be a decent value, but i don't think it would do it for me.
Then again, currently the OP has no engine at all, so i'm not sure what i would do backed into a corner. Most likely i would start calling in favors and having those people call in more favors. Even if i didn't drive the car 6 months of it not running would weigh on me.
 

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Not long ago he and I had a conversation about building a 500rwhp 347 and while possible, his opinion was that it would not have good street manners. Something that my current setup excels at. It probably would have been a change for the worse. Thankfully most of my hair brained pointless ideas for new setups are fleeting, mostly born out of boredom.
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This ^^^^ is what I want to do some day.

I want a 347, fuel injected, big ass heads, solid lifter, hard springs, and maybe a big Trickflow intake or something. I want something with long runners.

I would use hyper pistons and have to choose the final compression ratio carefully.

The intake would need to be fairly easy to pull and install.
 

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Blueprint blocks are four bolt main on 2, 3, & 4 with 1 & 2 being two bolt. Grapevine says they are good to about 700 hp and can be bored an 1/8 over.
 
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Blueprint blocks are four bolt main on 2, 3, & 4 with 1 & 2 being two bolt.
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MOST stock 4 bolt main blocks are all this way as far as I know... I am sure there are some exceptions????
 

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limp said:
MOST stock 4 bolt main blocks are all this way as far as I know... I am sure there are some exceptions????
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My Sportsman is this way but the Iron Eagle block was a true 4-bolt. I don't know if they make it anymore.
 
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Nevermind... They still have them.
 
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2000xp8 said:
My buddy used to build them all the time back in the day. (or buy them, some of us used the B block hyper 347 which was only $2200 at the time and no the B block didn't really hold more power).
Always a custom cam, but that was his thing, he always sent every set of heads to machine shop, new or used (which is totally undervalued)
The heads ranged, some were canfields, some high ports, twisted wedges Extrude honed (which i had a set of).
Most would put out somewhere in the 400-425rwhp.
The best being 477rwhp at like 7700rpm with solid lifters. This one actually destroyed the stock block and had to be switched to an R302. One of those few scenarios where the internals could actually be reused.

Honestly, if someone were to build a 347 and accept the fact that it would always be NA, some serious money could be saved on the block and rotating assembly, but i lean towards the idea that enough is never enough and a shortblock is too much effort to be built twice especially with what it costs these days.

Not long ago he and I had a conversation about building a 500rwhp 347 and while possible, his opinion was that it would not have good street manners. Something that my current setup excels at. It probably would have been a change for the worse. Thankfully most of my hair brained pointless ideas for new setups are fleeting, mostly born out of boredom.

I don't have anything against the blueprint engine. I guess it could be a decent value, but i don't think it would do it for me.
Then again, currently the OP has no engine at all, so i'm not sure what i would do backed into a corner. Most likely i would start calling in favors and having those people call in more favors. Even if i didn't drive the car 6 months of it not running would weigh on me.
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Wow this is the first time I have seen a 8.2 making a smige over my 331 I was at 469rwhp, block lasted 11 years. Cracked #2 main boss and cracked the eagle crank, turned as high as 8400rpm. Now building a 427 Maxx 4 bolt block and Molnar rotating assembly.
 
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gkomo said:
I could be wrong but i don't think Blueprint sells just shortblocks?
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Check this out:

Progress Thread Post in thread 'BluePrint 347 long block engine swap'

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What are your thoughts on the quality of the long block ?
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Just saw this post by a guy that bought one of the new Summit blocks on 8.2 Deck Mafia on facebook. Everyone's been wondering if the Summit 8.2 blocks are the same as the new BluePrint blocks. With the BPE logo on the main caps, I would say yes they are the same.
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I just came across this, this morning while doing my 'chores'
 
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