Looking into engine options: 445FE

In my quest to find the “perfect” powerplant for the 68 coupe, I have looked at several options. Im building an old school hotrod, I have seen enough cars with a warmed over 302 or mediocre 351. The goal for the build is around 500hp, yet streetable. Power will be pushed through a TKO 600 into the typical 9inch rear end with 3.73 gears. I have come across several options but it seems to get an engine built and tested in that power rating will cost roughly $10K. I have picked 3 options, 535hp crate 427 (351 windsor stroker) 500hp Clevor 408 stroker, or a 475-500 445 FE from survival motorsports. All fall in at around $10k.

However, im leaning toward the 445 because survival assembles, tests, and breaks in everything to the crate that shows up for $9-10K is drop in ready. Also the 445 has monstrous low end torque. 430ft lbs @ 2,500 rpm average. Peak is around 500 ft lbs @ 4,500. Also I wouldn’t have to immediately drop it into the car, I could use it in my 1969 F100 while its FE is being redone (I would worry how the NP435 would hold that much power, but its been known to hold modded 460s so I assume it would be ok) That’s a small plus. I just don’t think a small block will ever match the FE in low end grunt. Yeah the FE is a very thirsty engine, but it holds true to the muscle car theory, massive power, and massive displacement. I have had ni issues at all with the FE in my F100, its been very solid and reliable. The Survival Motorsports 445 is designed for street use, it had good manners on the road, but has a two fisted wallop off the line. My F100’s 360 has boatloads of low end torque, it can get heavy loads moving with much more ease than even my dads 2010 Dodge. I cant imagine almost double that torque in a 3,000lb car.

I’d like to hear thoughts and opinions, thought probably the most muscle of any engine I have looked at, its also the heaviest, and the hardest to shoe horn into the ithgt engine bay. I know the 68 GT had a 390 FE in it, and from what I have seen it was a tight fit. But I have found AC kits, headers, everything for using the FE in the car. Though thisty it would provide big power in a streetable package. I know some of the old school users on here have had some very fast results with FEs.
 
Sounds like you have already got your mind made up, but heres a thought. How about getting that small block built the way these guys get those stockers built. They get those things to pull full bodied mustangs down the track in the high tens with stock internals. Yes I know there is a lot of blueprinting and tuning, but I think with 10k you should be able to do that. Just a thought, not sure what the street manners would be on them, like I said tho, an idea.
 
I just have to add, I didn't say this earlier because its your car and by all means you do whatever the heck you want to with it....that being said, lol, 500 horsepower in a 68 coupe is about 150-200 horsepower overkill....if you are not taking it to any kind of track, if you are not drag racing it or road racing it. My little 225 horse 289 will roast the back tires already (I dont have any traction bars, but still) 500 horses is just going to spin worse, theny you have to cool that monster and feed it! Anyway, if you are using it to cruise around in and get a little stupid in every now and then, 350 horses will put a big smile on your face and you can achieve that with half the money and be very dependable. I have had the ultra-stupid horsepower car and its just not worth it to me....but again, thats just my .02....good luck with whatever you decide bro.
 
I currently have a 417 FE (4.19 bore by 3.78 stroke) with edelbrock heads in my 67 Cougar, and it is quite a package. That said, I've been having some recent issues that will require some engine work, and have been thinking over the same quandry, 351 stroker versus FE. Dimensionally, bore and stroke, they are very close to each other. The 351 package will be much lighter than the FE, and that would be a big plus. With more bore spacing, the FE can have bigger valves. 351 parts are easier (and cheaper) to come by, especially roller cams, and adding EFI would be a relative snap, along with bolting that TKO transmission up. The FE sure gets the nostalgia nod, but I haven't decided at all. If I go 351, it would be a big bore (4.155) with 3.85 stroke. I probably haven't helped you, but on the bright side, you'll be happy either way you go!
 
Survival Motorsports (1) knows what they are doing when it comes to an FE motor, and (2) will stand behind their product. In other words they are a sure thing.

I have a 462 cubic inch FE in my 68 vert. 580 ft/lbs of torque at 3900. Idles smoothly at 650 rpm all day long. Very mild cam so it only makes 480 hp at 5200. Stock 24" radiator with a factory shroud and fixed blade fan (not a flex fan). I live in Houston and cooling is not a problem. I'm not a big fan of headers so instead I went with CJ exhaust manifolds that I had ceramic coated. C6 with a low gear kit and 3.25 rear gears although the low gear kit effectively turns that into a 3.55. 2200 stall converter.

With a set of drag radials, Calvert mono leaf springs and traction devices you can put the power on the ground. I don't even have drag radials - I have a pair of BFG GForce Sports in a 235/60-15. I can get it to hook up all the way through second gear. First gear is a problem but I think a set of drag radials can get the job done.

IMO the biggest problem with FE motors in a 68 Mustang is headers. It is a tight fit and even with the best set you can get (FPA) there is a good chance you are going to have interference problems somewhere. Plus if they leak (likely) you get to have the joy of taking them loose and putting them back on. I just don't want to mess with it. Jay Brown's dyno test showed that CJ exhaust manifolds are only down about 30 hp to FPA headers and I have HP to burn.
 
Since we're doling out our .02 I say go the FE route. Unless you are purely looking at ease of serviceability, (where smaller makes easier) I don't have to tell YOU that FE's came in the car in the first place.

Windsors are a dime a dozen, and it won't matter whether it is .030 over w/ a stock stroke, or 427 C.I., it still looks like a 351.

As for the FE's, you just don't see them that often.

Sure, FE's are heavy, and a P.I.T.A. to install headers. Even spark plugs are a challenge. But install a set of platinum plugs and that will be the last time in a long time you'll worry about that.

Out the other side of my mouth, If you choose the smaller (block size) engine, At the last Mustang show I attended, There was this awesome Roush crate engine that I think was based on either the 351 or 302 that had an inline 4 bbl carb that looked like the autolite. I don't think the engine was anywhere near 10k (much higher me thinks) but the point is, if you're gonna go w/ a windsor, the induction options available to put it in the front of the eye candy store are numerous.

Then there is the new 32v DOHC Boss that sits right at 10k. All Aluminum, 400 HP. Cool as hell. But I digress, you know what you gotta do to make that engine fit in your car. If you don't know, you don't want to.

How about a base 460 w/ a boss9 top end kit? Vrrooom! :drool:
Uhh I forgot about the little problem w those pesky shock towers.
Same problem as above, different engine. (and about 300 lbs heavier)

That'll be .02 please.