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I have an aftermarket head unit with the Mach 460. Do I get a passive EQ to go with this or will an amplfied "booster" EQ work?
 

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coramprat said:
I have an aftermarket head unit with the Mach 460. Do I get a passive EQ to go with this or will an amplfied "booster" EQ work?
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Why run an EQ? I know they make things a bit more adjustable, but new aftermarket head units are more than sufficient. Are you planning on entering into sound comps? If so, and your set on an EQ, you should go passive. You don't want to blow the factory speakers.
 

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Blev said:
Why run an EQ? I know they make things a bit more adjustable, but new aftermarket head units are more than sufficient. Are you planning on entering into sound comps? If so, and your set on an EQ, you should go passive. You don't want to blow the factory speakers.
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I like to tailor the sound to my liking. Simple bass and treble won't do. I need to know if a passive will work. I'm old school when it comes to systems so back in the day we had HU with the old 'power booster' type EQ's. But I need to know if a passive will work with the Mach 460. Anyone done this yet?
 
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actually, you shouldnt run a aftermarket headunit with the mach 460 setup unless you have the amplifier eliminate plugs. If you dont have the plugs you are pushing an amplified source through another amplifier, so one of them will eventually be overloaded and die. Id say skip the eq and buy new speakers, they will equilize the music for you, which is what makes good speakers good speakers....

Just my .02 and years of experience
 
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Actually, I'd even have to disagree there as well. If you know the wiring configuration and have a sub out on your new head unit, you should be fine. There are already line outs from the factory head that you have to splice a set of RCAs into. (Or at least until Metra or Scosche come out with a amp adapter plug.) Once you get that done, just plug it into the sub out and you be amazed at how good it can sound with an after market head unit.

As for an EQ going in, you can't use a passive because they are designed to be fed into amps and then to speakers next. I definitly would not recommend an EQ with a "booster" on it either. They were pretty much junk back in the day and still are now. It was funny how they used to say 200 watts on them way back when they were closer to MAYBE 25-30 watts.

To be about as happy as you can be without changing out all of your speakers, I would recommend getting a newer head unit with a built in EQ. Mine has one although I don't use it very much because I like a more flat and true sound rather than an altered sound. The deck I am using is the Kenwood KDC-679 Excelon. I think it retails for around $340 or so. Sweet deck, comes with a free Sirius satellite tuner as well. Then you can contact me and I can give you the info on how to splice the wires correct.

That comes from 16 years install experience and owning an install business now.
 

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SilverBullitt00 said:
actually, you shouldnt run a aftermarket headunit with the mach 460 setup unless you have the amplifier eliminate plugs. If you dont have the plugs you are pushing an amplified source through another amplifier, so one of them will eventually be overloaded and die. Id say skip the eq and buy new speakers, they will equilize the music for you, which is what makes good speakers good speakers....
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I have the line adjuster already. No issues for over a year. Sounds good but I want more adjustment than simple bass and treble.

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As for an EQ going in, you can't use a passive because they are designed to be fed into amps and then to speakers next. I definitly would not recommend an EQ with a "booster" on it either. They were pretty much junk back in the day and still are now. It was funny how they used to say 200 watts on them way back when they were closer to MAYBE 25-30 watts.

To be about as happy as you can be without changing out all of your speakers, I would recommend getting a newer head unit with a built in EQ. Mine has one although I don't use it very much because I like a more flat and true sound rather than an altered sound. The deck I am using is the Kenwood KDC-679 Excelon. I think it retails for around $340 or so. Sweet deck, comes with a free Sirius satellite tuner as well. Then you can contact me and I can give you the info on how to splice the wires correct.

That comes from 16 years install experience and owning an install business now.
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I'm just looking for greater adjustment over tone. I have a newer Alpine HU and when I purchased it I thought it had a built in EQ. Turns out it doesn't. So that is why I have questions about the passive or boosted EQ. I know the 'boosted' EQ's are not the greatest but they still allowed for adjustment. I never used them for "loud" as much as I did for tone. SO a passive EQ would not work through the Mach 460 amps?
 

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No, it will not work with the factory amps. Honestly, even using a boosted EQ you would have to by-pass the factory amps and run straight to the speakers. At that point, just buy new speakers that suit your liking more and throw in a small 4 channel amp.
 

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No, it will not work with the factory amps. Honestly, even using a boosted EQ you would have to by-pass the factory amps and run straight to the speakers. At that point, just buy new speakers that suit your liking more and throw in a small 4 channel amp.
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Thanks...Eventually I will replace the Mach system as speakers blow/wear out. I was hoping I could do more customization now. I guess I could shop around for another head unit that has a built-in EQ. I just wish I'd known at the time that the Alpine I have (it stated it had a 7 band EQ but for a slightly different model number than the one I bought) wasn't what I actually wanted.
 
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