MAF conversion computer?
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I would think yes. The only issue you might have is the MAF. I'm not sure how newer stock Ford MAF's interact with those computers, but I would think they should work fine. If not you'll have to get an aftermarket MAF. I'd look around on ebay or other places for an A9L computer if you are manual or an A9P if you are auto. Good luck.
Who the hell are you calling me an idiot in a forum where you have exactly 1 post and not backing up what you say with any sort of fact? If you have some constructive input to add to a post in a mature manner then by all means go for it. Don't just get on here and start calling people idiots etc. because you have a differing opinion or you won't be a member for long. People come here to ask questions about their cars and projects and gain knew knowledge, not to be insulted. Now, let's get back to what you said about the ZX3 computer. Actually, as long as you have a MAF calibrated for 24's then you are fine with just about any Mass Air Mustang computer between 89 and 93. The actual "Cobra" specific computers are not really too user friendly on anything smaller or larger than 24's even with the proper MAF because of the actual progamming of the cobra computer specifically for 24's and nothing else. A Cobra computer will end up being a limitation if the original poster ever wants to grow into something larger than 24 pounders. If he's doing a swap into an 88 mustang and the car has a Mustang harness with Mass Air conversion done, then an excellent computer to use would be the A9L or A9P. They respond well to modifications and are reputed to have the best fuel and spark curves of the Fox computers. The only thing I was not sure about in this situation is whether or not Ford has made any significant changes to their MAF sensors that would prohibit the explorer MAF from working with the older computers. Maybe someone else could chime in on that. For the money though, I'd just get a larger aftermarket MAF calibrated for the 24's and run the A9L or A9P.
It's an X3Z you retard. Keep your mouth shut when you don't know what you're talking about.
I have an X3Z I'm looking to sell, as I don't need it any longer. I also have the MAF and 24's for this ecu... sounds like you already have that though?
pm me if interested...
Saleen8786
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Lets keep it clean, fellas. No need for name-calling in tech. Go over to talk if you want to do that. 
The EEC computers are programmed for the injectors, not the meter. The aftermarket meters you see that are "calibrated" for larger injectors are actually just fooling the computer into thinking the car still has 19 lb/hr injectors, while providing the right voltage signal to the computer to get it to play nice with larger injectors.
I imagine that, without a tune, the Explorer MAF meter and 24 lb/hr injectors might cause driveability issues with a Mustang computer. As said above, you might be better off finding a good aftermarket meter "calibrated" for the 24 lb/hr injectors.
The EEC computers are programmed for the injectors, not the meter. The aftermarket meters you see that are "calibrated" for larger injectors are actually just fooling the computer into thinking the car still has 19 lb/hr injectors, while providing the right voltage signal to the computer to get it to play nice with larger injectors.
I imagine that, without a tune, the Explorer MAF meter and 24 lb/hr injectors might cause driveability issues with a Mustang computer. As said above, you might be better off finding a good aftermarket meter "calibrated" for the 24 lb/hr injectors.
Hey i think fastfox might be a little confused. Its not the MAF that came on the stock explorer. All i got is the 98 explorer motor that im going to bolt up in place of my old 5.0. Im going to put an F cam in it and rockers,lifters ect... But my question is, since i dont have anything but the 24 pound injectors and the 70mm MAF, would a stock computer from say like a 92 GT mustang, off of like ebay or something, go right in place of my computer that was set up for speed density? How would i tune that computer from the 92 GT to accept 24 pound injectors? Doesnt it come stock with like 19 or something? Will it automatically adjust to the MAF and injectors ect..?
Retardation should be called what it is, especially in the tech section.Lets keep it clean, fellas. No need for name-calling in tech. Go over to talk if you want to do that.
Maybe the bad tech should be taken to the talk section instead?
You need to do a MAF conversion, and you'll be ok
What sensor is in this 70mm MAF? Part number?
How committed are you to using this meter?
The X3Z would be my first choice, but you can get other setups to work just as well...
jason
I was more referring to this "mikes mustang" character's aggressive statement.
Jason, I always expect snappy, aggressive comments from you, but at least you're usually spot-on with your Tech knowledge.
I was more referring to this "mikes mustang" character's aggressive statement.
Jason, I always expect snappy, aggressive comments from you, but at least you're usually spot-on with your Tech knowledge.
Maybe he's just one of those people who sign up and say stuff like that to stir the pot and see what responses people give.
Obviously guys a speed density compouter wouldnt work.... Thats why i asked if i could use a computer from like a 92 gt mustang that has MAF. The car hasnt had the MAF conversion yet. I bought the 70mm and 24 lb injectors in hopes that i could use that along with converting it. What all needs to be done? Just get the stock mustang gt 89-93 computer? Or does it need to be the cobra computer that is all ready tuned for those specific injectors and air meter. Basically what i am asking is can the stock 89-93 mustang GT computer be tuned or calibrated to be used with 24 lb injectors and a 70mm MAF, that i think both came from a 89-93 cobra...
Which of these options is best for you, will depend on what parts you already have.
We MUST know the part number on the MAF before we can answer....
Confirm what parts you already have (namely the MAF), and we'll go through your options from there...
You are looking for the engineering number on the black sensor itself. The first 4 digits are the most important, but please present everything you find on the sensor.
Examples: F1SF, F1ZF, F2VF, etc....
Actually, if you can get a picture of the sensor, that may be easier?
Nice first post there. Infraction issued.
Try not to insult other members here. You have an opinion, then state it without personal attacks.
just get a good mass air meter calibrated for 24 # injectors, and you'll be golden...
get the 4 wire mass air conversion harness..+ cheap + easy and an 88+ mass air computer (88 in cali)
FYI, you don't need 19# injectors unless you plan on running nitrous. the stock 19# injectors are MORE than sufficient for the explorer motor....
You can pick up stock injectors for nothing if you look around. In your case, I'd run the HO cam with 19# injectors and keep the speed density (what I did for a long while with my explorer motor)
or run the cam, use the 19# injectors, and convert to MAF and use a maf calibrated for stock 19# injectors.
sack the 24's away for the future.
get the 4 wire mass air conversion harness..+ cheap + easy and an 88+ mass air computer (88 in cali)
FYI, you don't need 19# injectors unless you plan on running nitrous. the stock 19# injectors are MORE than sufficient for the explorer motor....
You can pick up stock injectors for nothing if you look around. In your case, I'd run the HO cam with 19# injectors and keep the speed density (what I did for a long while with my explorer motor)
or run the cam, use the 19# injectors, and convert to MAF and use a maf calibrated for stock 19# injectors.
sack the 24's away for the future.
I'm sorry, but with that meter and any Fox ecu.... you aren't going to use that meter without a custom J3 tune.
The 'afh80' signifies that the sensor is actually a 80mm unit. Either you have an 80mm sensor and housing, or someone stucka 80mm sensor in a 70mm housing. (No way it came form a '93 Cobra.... '93 Cobra would have started with a 'F2SF', or 'F4SF' and would be 70mm)
Either way, you will need access to the MAF Transfer function to make the meter work in your ecu. Injector size doesn't even matter at this point.
The 'afh80' signifies that the sensor is actually a 80mm unit. Either you have an 80mm sensor and housing, or someone stucka 80mm sensor in a 70mm housing. (No way it came form a '93 Cobra.... '93 Cobra would have started with a 'F2SF', or 'F4SF' and would be 70mm)
Either way, you will need access to the MAF Transfer function to make the meter work in your ecu. Injector size doesn't even matter at this point.
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