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Jake795

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Has anyone on here installed the manifold supercharger kit available from ford racing? I'm just wondering how much benefit you get from about 3500 bucks. If it's a substantial increase, this looks like a fairly simple weekend project to make a monster motor.
 

mogs01gt

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I have no idea which one you are referring to but you can buy a Vortech tuner kit for that much. It would produce a lot more power.
 
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Post links so we know exactly what you are talking about
 
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It's probably a very lame blower. You can look at some other nice options for that $$, just be prepared to upgrade other stuff like injectors, and fuel pump etc.. just like you would have to w/ that one I'm sure.
 
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He is talking about the FRPP Roots blower. It's OK, but there are better options if power is what you are in the quest for.
 

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I'm very happy with my frrp roots blower. Easy bolt on, everything fits... complete kit comes with fuel pump, injectors, and new eec. I saw a 60+ hp increase on a bone stock setup. Tons of bottom end torque, and still some room to grow if you want to upgrade to a 9psi pulley. This will wake up your ride...






 

BrightBlue00GT

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Jake795 said:
Has anyone on here installed the manifold supercharger kit available from ford racing? I'm just wondering how much benefit you get from about 3500 bucks. If it's a substantial increase, this looks like a fairly simple weekend project to make a monster motor.
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It will be a better motor, but not a monster.

For a monster motor you want a Kenne Bell Twin Screw blower. For about that same price you can get the 6# non-intercooled kit, which is complete; new cast manifold, injectors, Boost-A-Pump... the works, and it will give you a much better HP gain. For a bit more $$ you can go with the 9# intercooled kit which will get you about 160 added HP.

 

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The KB twin screws would be the PERFECT, AWESOME, EXCELLENT way to go... if only they were available for the 96-98GTs. Last time I looked, it wasn't available. Maybe this has changed?

 
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How about a centrifugal application?

Did Vortech, Paxton, and Procharger fall off the face of the earth b/c of the Kenne Bell/Cobra phenomenom?
 

BrightBlue00GT

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DoctorGeek97GT said:
The KB twin screws would be the PERFECT, AWESOME, EXCELLENT way to go... if only they were available for the 96-98GTs. Last time I looked, it wasn't available. Maybe this has changed?

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Yup, you're right, bummer
 

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I want a KB too, but I have no $$$
 
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Don't undrestimate that blower. With the right bolt ons, it makes for a VERY fun street car. I won't make the peak power numbers, but the torque more than makes up for it, and the sound is 100x better than the vortech. However, don't pay retail price for it. You can find them on ebay and mustang website classifieds for under $2K, and any parts that are missing from those kits are easy to work around. If you are going to pay full prive, get a KB. I personally wouldn't recommed a vortech on the non-PI heads. the heads won't take full advantage of the blower's potential on top, AND you won't have the low end of a KB or eaton either.

Now a vortech on a PI motor . . . that's a different story.
 

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For those that know about the blower ... it's a complete kit

Well, I love my lame blower. It met all of my requirements, streetability, improved power and reliablility.

J98GT hit it on the head, there are a lot of these kits running around for underr $3K. If you add the 9lb pulley, you can see at least a +100rwhp .... dependent on the health of your engine.

Mine has served me well for +80K, good punch great gas mileage .... but like others have said, if you're looking for huge rwhp numbers,look elsewhere.

 

DBMSTNG

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it's not worth the money. you can produce a hell of alot more power with other blowers for the same price if not less. the FRPP doesn't have a whole lot of room for growth either.
 
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If you PI head the engine you got the 6psi non-intercooled KB kit will net you just over 100 rwhp and about 75 rw-ft/lbs. For about $3600. Want to go intercooled? You can upgrade. More boost? You can upgrade.
 

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I think an important point is being missed -- this blower is dead-easy to bolt in. I mean:
1) Order blower kit
2) UPS guy arrives
3) Read instructions (optional)
4) Open hood, take off old manifold and replace with new one attached with blower.
5) Remove old fuel pump, insert new one.
6) Remove old comp, replace with new one.
7) Drive around with huge grin
8) Get speeding ticket

Ok, oversimplified, but if I could take this project on ANYONE can -- there's no tapping oil pan, no headswap involved, timing chains to worry about, and NO TUNE required (good for me since there are no good tuners around). It's easy, a nice fit, looks stock, and fun.

Gotta go, feel the urge to drive again...
 

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DoctorGeek97GT said:
I think an important point is being missed -- this blower is dead-easy to bolt in. I mean:
1) Order blower kit
2) UPS guy arrives
3) Read instructions (optional)
4) Open hood, take off old manifold and replace with new one attached with blower.
5) Remove old fuel pump, insert new one.
6) Remove old comp, replace with new one.
7) Drive around with huge grin
8) Get speeding ticket

Ok, oversimplified, but if I could take this project on ANYONE can -- there's no tapping oil pan, no headswap involved, timing chains to worry about, and NO TUNE required (good for me since there are no good tuners around). It's easy, a nice fit, looks stock, and fun.

Gotta go, feel the urge to drive again...
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easy, sure. but he could make more power than you n/a with a headswap and exhaust. he'd then still have room to grow. plus the SVO blower doesn't fit the PI heads. his sig says he wants them.
 

DoctorGeek97GT

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DBMSTNG said:
easy, sure. but he could make more power than you n/a with a headswap and exhaust. he'd then still have room to grow. plus the SVO blower doesn't fit the PI heads. his sig says he wants them.
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A headswap+exhaust would have more power? Don't think so -- from what I've seen on stangnet pi headswapped+exhaust+pulleys are pulling 240-250... very close, even-steven with the the 6psi roots kit on a bone-stock gt.

But you're right -- if he can handle a headswap, he'll save a bundle. But room to grow means having to stay n/a with the higher compression...
 

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Do what I did. Bought a used vortech v2. Now I can make about 300rwhp knock atleast a full second off my 1/4 mile. That was a little less than 2,000. Get PI heads dished piston's and cam. I have the versatility of using the blower with different combo's. Also with about 9psi, a cam, p&p PI heads, and a bullit or P51 intake the car will make some serious...serious numbers. Plus, have you ever heard a vortech supercharger at idle ? Or a v2 at about 6,000rpm? That alone made me get one.
 
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