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jivepepper

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I'm pondering the idea of going to a manual brake and steering set up.

I'm pretty sold on the skinny kid manual brake kit minus the line lock and the flaming river manual steering rack kit.

My question is how do I eliminate the power steering pump. If I remove the pump how would I route the belt?
 

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TTT
 

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If the car is street driven at all, i would not recommend it.
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
If the car is street driven at all, i would not recommend it.
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J/k I'm still debating it. But I would still like to know how?
 

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look at the bright side... you'll have some really strong forearms!
 

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Rougestang said:
look at the bright side... you'll have some really strong forearms!
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I don't drive it very often and live in the country. I thought maybe once I got moving it wouldn't be to bad?
 

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The brakes are going to be your biggest worry. The 99+ GT's use some pretty big pistons up front so they need a lot of force. Your right calf is going to be HUGE along with your forearms and left leg if you have a stiff clutch. Who needs a gym!!
 

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Are you looking to get more horespower?? Cause your not gonna feel a difference... you might get 3-4 hp tops, But I don't think it's worth the hassle. I new a guy who did it on his srt-4 and he crashed it cause he couldn't turn it. I'm not saying its a bad idea, you have a method to madness just like I do, but I think the neg. outgain the pos. IMO
 

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Rougestang said:
Are you looking to get more horespower?? Cause your not gonna feel a difference... you might get 3-4 hp tops, But I don't think it's worth the hassle. I new a guy who did it on his srt-4 and he crashed it cause he couldn't turn it. I'm not saying its a bad idea, you have a method to madness just like I do, but I think the neg. outgain the pos. IMO
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You also lose the weight of the heavy power master cylinder system. The weight of the power steering pump, and lines. The manual steering rack is also lighter. I will also remove the abs pump. bracket and module. All this comes off the front of the car where it is needed most.

Plus on my app. it might free a little more than 3-4hp.
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
The brakes are going to be your biggest worry. The 99+ GT's use some pretty big pistons up front so they need a lot of force.
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Right now I cobra fronts?
 

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jivepepper said:
You also lose the weight of the heavy power master cylinder system. The weight of the power steering pump, and lines. The manual steering rack is also lighter. I will also remove the abs pump. bracket and module. All this comes off the front of the car where it is needed most.

Plus on my app. it might free a little more than 3-4hp.
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You are probably right, didn't take that in to account, but still I don't think your gonna feel it... then again, every little bit counts. Right?
 

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No one has eliminated the the power steering pump? Does anyone know of a ps pump delete? Please any help would be be appreciated.
 

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jivepepper said:
Right now I cobra fronts?
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Almost the same. Slightly smaller pistons but still significantly larger than the smaller piston calipers most cars with factory manual brakes come with.


What does the manual brake kit come with? Does it include a new Master Cylinder??
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
Almost the same. Slightly smaller pistons but still significantly larger than the smaller piston calipers most cars with factory manual brakes come with.


What does the manual brake kit come with? Does it include a new Master Cylinder??
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Depends most come with the adapter plate and MC . So come with all new braided lines and a line lock.
 
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