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Mid to Low 11's Possible?????

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tbird187

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I am trying to decide if I should stick with nitrous or go custom single turbo.... I am looking for mid-low 11's is it possible with this combo????

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e7's i doubt it.....that is the major drawback, ported aluminum heads for sure.

and i don't think a single turbo will get you there either
 

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Nope
 

2000xp8

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Why not put the money towards better heads instead of a turbo?
Probably cost you 1/5 the price. Then you could use your juice and run low 11's, and still of spent way less.

By the time you complete a turbo kit, it costs between $4000-$6000 dollars.
 
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Well I was told my heads are ported gt40's when I bought it But I have no way of telling on car car and I dont want to pull t he intake
 

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tbird187 said:
Well I was told my heads are ported gt40's when I bought it But I have no way of telling on car car and I dont want to pull t he intake
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gt40 have 3 vertical bars on the front/back of each head. they also have GT stamped on them near the front lower head bolt.
 

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throw away those iron heads
get AFR's or TFS
 

N8Miller

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you guys are harsh. that setup, with a good driver, non-nitrous, should go high 12s no problem. so hit that with a 200 shot and it SHOULD go mid 11s or so.
 

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i agree ..... the car could go even faster than high 12's on motor if its light enough .

e7's are really not that bad done up ( yes costly ) ...

but a 200 hit makes up for the heads even tho there not bad ..
 

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Hooking and driving right and that will run a low 11 fairly easy if not into the high 10's depending how light the car is.
 

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I think you can do it but not with 4.10's. You need less gear.
 

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Go with the turbo over the nitrous. The power is always there, and it can be done for a LOT less than $4-6k when completed. GreenMustangGt over in the 94-95 section did a remote mounted twin turbo setup (turbos are in place of the mufflers), and he dynoed at 331hp/380tq to the wheels on only 5 PSI, with the ability to turn it up on a whim. He's running an Explorer engine, complete with untouched GT40P heads and a Crane 2031 cam. His total cost was in the $1600 range for the twin turbo setup, getting quite a bit of stuff from Ebay, and said it could've been less had he not wanted the specific turbos he used. Here's a link to the thread from the 94-95 tech section, detailing his build progress: http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=571566
 

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QDRHRSE said:
I think you can do it but not with 4.10's. You need less gear.
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no way. hes running that on DRs, which are probably a taller tire, it will equal out his 4.10s.
 

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StangGT1995 said:
Go with the turbo over the nitrous. The power is always there, and it can be done for a LOT less than $4-6k when completed. GreenMustangGt over in the 94-95 section did a remote mounted twin turbo setup (turbos are in place of the mufflers), and he dynoed at 331hp/380tq to the wheels on only 5 PSI, with the ability to turn it up on a whim. He's running an Explorer engine, complete with untouched GT40P heads and a Crane 2031 cam. His total cost was in the $1600 range for the twin turbo setup, getting quite a bit of stuff from Ebay, and said it could've been less had he not wanted the specific turbos he used. Here's a link to the thread from the 94-95 tech section, detailing his build progress: http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=571566
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I can appreciate the effort and enginuety, but this car could of probably made around 260 to the wheels NA, then you go and add twins, and it only makes 330rwhp.
You can make that NA on a stock 302 shortblock. So why the hell bother doing that to your car. It's also not good as a DD.
It's also not the easiest back yard project.
Compare that to a normal turbo setup that would easily make over 400+rwhp on almost any engine combo.
That car is also probably low 12's, not mid 11's.
NO insult intended towards you or that guys project, but i wouldn't get involved in that in a million years.
 
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2000XP8, You seem to know whats going on, so I was wondering what your car runs? Any track #s?
 

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2000XP8, You seem to know whats going on, so I was wondering what your car runs? Any track #s?
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Na, no numbers, I've been on the lazy side, and my battery switch does not shut the car off, i also think E town just closed for the year. But same combo on a another lx from same shop that did mine, (same RR style suspension) netted 12.2@114. My car with the 18's should be a bit slower, as for the other car has 5 lug cobra R's.
I know what's going on, because my buddy owns a mustang shop, and i spend about 10-20 hours a week hanging out there, since 1993.
 

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I agree 12s on the Drs with the motor in there now... Also there might be too much gear but with a 200 shot, as long as it hooks it should go into the low 11s!
 

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N8Miller said:
no way. hes running that on DRs, which are probably a taller tire, it will equal out his 4.10s.
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My last car didn't go low 11's, more like 11.90's and I was bumping the limiter with a 28" tall tire, an AOD, 4.10's, and a 150 shot. The AOD is geared taller too. A 200 hp shot of juice will make a serious amount of MPH. Even with a rev extender it's not gonna happen with his cam. Sorry Nate, your wrong on this one.
 

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....sorry to post jack but my last post put me at exactly 1320!
 

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aleborjas said:
throw away those iron heads
get AFR's or TFS
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YEAH!!!!
 
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