Moral dilemma regarding Shelby side scoops...

[reenmachine]

OK, I need you guys' help making a decision. I'm building this '67 Shelby clone and need to figure out what to do about the side (brake cooling) scoops. You see, the dilemma stems from the fact that the car has inboard disc brakes. If I install the original-type functional brake cooling scoops, they'll blow into a wheelwell with no brakes in there. I could just install the non-functional version of the side scoops, but non-functional scoops bother me. I have both types on the shelf already, so that's not a problem. Routing the ducting to the inboard brakes isn't really practical on a convertible, and I think they get great airflow in there anyway.

So what to do? Functional scoops that blow on nothing, or non-functional altogether?

EDIT: It may be a moot point -- looking at things in there, it may be impossible to use the functional kit on a convertible anyway because of the quarter window mechanism.

 

[Route666]

So you're trying to decide between useless scoops and pointless scoops. Well pointless except for looks. Are you considering not putting them on at all? I know that would be an obvious part missing from a Shelby, but you're doing a clone...

 

[GT2K]

Too bad you're building a clone ...

 

[mdjay]

If you really want the scoop look, main issue, go with the functional ones. Otherwise they will act against you for aerodynamics...

 

[one2gamble]

why not make ducting that blows on the inbored disks?

 

[DukeGnarley]

to answer above question

Routing the ducting to the inboard brakes isn't really practical on a convertible, and I think they get great airflow in there anyway.

i would just go ahead and setup the functional ones

 

[one2gamble]

practical on his car is long gone

 

[Ronstang]

Just remember that anything added that does not function but is just for looks is how the whole "rice" movement it defined. Bling is bad. Make them funcitonal for something.

 

[Hack]

Just remember that anything added that does not function but is just for looks is how the whole "rice" movement it defined. Bling is bad. Make them funcitonal for something.

I understand where you're coming from, but I think that "rice" is about over the top bling. Not all bling is bad, just keep it tasteful. For instance, a nice paint job, or a spoiler on a car isn't bad - it's just the 3 foot high spoiler on a 75 horsepower car that I object to.

I think the Shelby scoops whether functional or not look good on a classic mustang. However, I would spend some time trying to make them functional.

 

[mustangbrad]

By looking at pictures of your car, I can only conclude that you have some awesome fabricating skills. So don't try to tell us that making the scoops functional for the inboard brakes is too hard. Seriously, I don't see a problem with the non-functional scoops. I am not sure they will hurt the aerodynamics of the car too much. Nothing about the early Mustangs are sleek aerodynamicly any way, it would be like putting a "fake" scoop on a brick, not going to hurt you too much.

 

[allcarfan]

If you are building a clone, just use the functional ones. Think about when someone sees those scoops and can see there is no hole cut out in there....it looks awkward. I speak from personal experience. I have non-functional side scoops and it drives me nuts. They were on the car when I bought it.

As for the ducts actually DOING something.....I wouldnt worry about that. I always wondered that if side scoops were glassed in and not functional and you do some highspeed driving (60mph and above) .....the air would get "caught" in there and possible have them start cracking where they were glassed in. Dont know if that would really happen though. As for aerodynamics.....I dont think they car will be driven than fast to make much of a difference.

 

[mdjay]

Oh Yeah... Over 100. Don't you guys drive there?

No seriously, I had a set on my 65 back about 10 years ago (I realize they're bigger, and open) and didn't cut the hole to the brakes. I absolutely felt the difference at about 70. I doubt the smaller closed ones would hurt it much as well...

 

[allcarfan]

Oh Yeah... Over 100. Don't you guys drive there?

No seriously, I had a set on my 65 back about 10 years ago (I realize they're bigger, and open) and didn't cut the hole to the brakes. I absolutely felt the difference at about 70. I doubt the smaller closed ones would hurt it much as well...

3.89 gears, c4...100mph on the highway....I will pass! LOL!

 

[reenmachine]

As far as the "ricer" comment goes, the majority of factory scoops on Mustangs over the years (especially late models) were non-functional. Does this make us all ricers? Even on many original '67 Shelbys the scoops were non-functional. The aero factor doesn't really bother me given the already brick-like aerodynamics of a convertible.

The one point that got to me was the one from mustangbrad. I need to just man up and figure out a way to make them work for something.

 

[Opentracker]

I made ours work on our '66 coup by running high temp. hose to the backing plate of our drum brake car. It would be no harder to run the hose to the inboard discs. It does stop the 1/4 window from rolling up and down. Ours bolt in the 'up' position and come out for track events. Side scoops that don't work are worthless in my opinion. If it doesn't work, why have it on the car?

The car is in mock up stage for the brake coolers and the watts link.


John

 

[MustangMatt1966]

yeah, i have to agree with mustangbrad, the work you do is amazing and there has to be some way u can make them work, i have faith!

 

[mustangbrad]

I wasn't trying to talk you into more fabrication work. It already looks like space is at a premium for exhaust, unless it is going to dump before the rear axle. If you want to make them functional, I'm sure that you can make them work. Just some friendly encouragement.

I don't mean to change the subject, but how will that independent rear take "spirited" driving. I guess what I am really asking is will it be as durable under hard cornering as a cobra type, with upper and lower control arms, or is it more for ride quality?

 

[WORTH]

Damn Guys, what ever happened to building a car the way you want it.

If you like the looks of the scoops, put them on.

If you can make them functional, all the better.

I put them on the 70 ragtop cause i didn't think it looked like a Mustang without something back there, 70 was the first year with nothing.

I put them on the 69 coupe because 69 has that stupid backasswards scoop that always bothered the piss outta me.

I intend to make the 70 scoops function when I restore it, although I never considered the rear windows being in the way, may have to look at that a bit to see if it's worth the trouble.

 

[mdjay]

My rear windows were rendered obsolete

 

[Ozsum2]

Make it easy on yourself.