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I know a few people on here run these. I was just wondering a few things. One, is the oxygen sensor bung on the header collector, or on one of the primary tubes? I see images with it in both locations, so I am confused. I don't like the idea of an 02 sensor only reading from one cylinder, like if it's on a primary tube.
They are desigend to be able to be used with a modified stock H pipe. A Pypes X pipe is also designed to be used with a modified stock H pipe. Putting 2 and 2 together, I assume that the Pypes X pipe closely follows the dimensions of the stock H pipe, so I assume it will work with Hooker longtubes. Has anyone done this?
And, lastly, has anyone sucessfully spliced cats into a system with these headers? Doesn't look like there's much room in there, but ya never know.
I have been having a lot of trouble deciding on which headers to get for my car. I will not spend the money for Kooks, ARH, SLP, etc, that's just not an option. So for a while I was set on Macs, I was going to buy a package from Brenspeed for 699 that is the header, an offroad X pipe, 02 sensor extensions, gaskets, and hardware. I was told that they are good quality headers, fit well, etc, and that they should make just as much power as any other header, give or take, despite being shorter. My main reasons for choosing them were because this package is relatively cheap, fits what i want, and if it will make good power, why not. I figured I can easily splice some cats in since there is plenty of pipe to play withdue to the shorter lenth of the MACs, and they're even ceramic coated. I also figure they'll be a lot easier to install since they aren't as long and bulky as full long tubes. But by the time I buy cats, I'm up to $850ish, which is getting up there for "accessorizing" a cheap header...
But at the same time, I just have this idea in my head that I'm better off with a full long tube. Am I right, or is the power difference going to be negligible between the two like a few people have told me?
In the market for full long tubes, all of the options that are offered with a catted X pipe are way too much money. But I I noticed that Hookers are available for 600-650. So I got to thinking, if I can get these and use themw ith my current Pypes X pipe, then I am at the same level in the game for $50 less than with the Macs (sicne I won't be buying a second X pipe), and with a full lenth header instead of a mid-lenth longtube, and after buying cats I'll be at like $750-800. That seems pretty sweet to me. My only concerns here would be wether the X pipe will work or not, the location of the 02 sensors, and most importantly, if I can add cats, because I want cats.
So now I am stufk between the two. I can get A. the Macs, which I know will work, as it is a package, and Brenspeed told me they have added the Pypes cat kit to them with no problem. They should't be too hard to install since they aren't that long and may have less clearance issues. Yet they are still decently long. If they make just as much power, then why not? Or B. The Hookers, which would be harder to install (not my main concern, as a professional technician) and may be a tighter fit, but would be full lenth. But I may not be able to add cats.
So what does everyone reccomend, which would I be better off with, and which would make more power?
Sorry for my constant threads about this, I have a lot of trouble deciding on everything I buy, especially things I can't see until they show up on my doorstep.
They are desigend to be able to be used with a modified stock H pipe. A Pypes X pipe is also designed to be used with a modified stock H pipe. Putting 2 and 2 together, I assume that the Pypes X pipe closely follows the dimensions of the stock H pipe, so I assume it will work with Hooker longtubes. Has anyone done this?
And, lastly, has anyone sucessfully spliced cats into a system with these headers? Doesn't look like there's much room in there, but ya never know.
I have been having a lot of trouble deciding on which headers to get for my car. I will not spend the money for Kooks, ARH, SLP, etc, that's just not an option. So for a while I was set on Macs, I was going to buy a package from Brenspeed for 699 that is the header, an offroad X pipe, 02 sensor extensions, gaskets, and hardware. I was told that they are good quality headers, fit well, etc, and that they should make just as much power as any other header, give or take, despite being shorter. My main reasons for choosing them were because this package is relatively cheap, fits what i want, and if it will make good power, why not. I figured I can easily splice some cats in since there is plenty of pipe to play withdue to the shorter lenth of the MACs, and they're even ceramic coated. I also figure they'll be a lot easier to install since they aren't as long and bulky as full long tubes. But by the time I buy cats, I'm up to $850ish, which is getting up there for "accessorizing" a cheap header...
But at the same time, I just have this idea in my head that I'm better off with a full long tube. Am I right, or is the power difference going to be negligible between the two like a few people have told me?
In the market for full long tubes, all of the options that are offered with a catted X pipe are way too much money. But I I noticed that Hookers are available for 600-650. So I got to thinking, if I can get these and use themw ith my current Pypes X pipe, then I am at the same level in the game for $50 less than with the Macs (sicne I won't be buying a second X pipe), and with a full lenth header instead of a mid-lenth longtube, and after buying cats I'll be at like $750-800. That seems pretty sweet to me. My only concerns here would be wether the X pipe will work or not, the location of the 02 sensors, and most importantly, if I can add cats, because I want cats.
So now I am stufk between the two. I can get A. the Macs, which I know will work, as it is a package, and Brenspeed told me they have added the Pypes cat kit to them with no problem. They should't be too hard to install since they aren't that long and may have less clearance issues. Yet they are still decently long. If they make just as much power, then why not? Or B. The Hookers, which would be harder to install (not my main concern, as a professional technician) and may be a tighter fit, but would be full lenth. But I may not be able to add cats.
So what does everyone reccomend, which would I be better off with, and which would make more power?
Sorry for my constant threads about this, I have a lot of trouble deciding on everything I buy, especially things I can't see until they show up on my doorstep.
for EZ XS to bolts... Ive had the uncoated for over 2 years, no complaints...
