Motor Mounts/Tranny Mounts

[fost9508]

I have decided to replace my tranny mount since everytime I shift I hear/feel a clunking sound at the midpoint of the car. While doing that I might as well replace the motor mounts.....

I have read through a lot of posts about Motor mounts. So jrichker you don't have to respond with your cookie cutter response to this quesiton, thanks for the insight. HISSIN50, the link to your mount post is gone, never to be read again. As for the mounts are there only 2 motor mounts and 1 tranny mount?

So, I don't have a hoist so I will be doing all this work from below. Can I perform the motor mount and tranny mount replacement with one jack? Also, this thoroughly confused me....I looked at the motor mounts and they appear to be made out of wood and painted blue, I don't understand???? While I am changing out the three mounts what else should I think about doing? Rear main seal, or do I need a hoist to do that?

Finally can you recommend a good mount to use. I want a good performing mount, but don't need an extremely stiff mount since I don't race, but want to get as much power to the wheels as I can without rattling my car to pieces

Thanks for the help guys....

fost9508

 

[Mustang Yawie]

Well i have the energy suspension motor and trans mounts. They work great hardly any more vibration than the stock ones. You can do the job with one jack. Just do one at a time.

 

[PNY PWR]

Well i have the energy suspension motor and trans mounts. They work great hardly any more vibration than the stock ones. You can do the job with one jack. Just do one at a time.

I agree

 

[Blakthorn]

energy suspension A+

 

[fost9508]

Thanks...will look into those. Does the tranny only have 1 mount? Also, anybody think of other things I could do while I have the engine jacked up a bit??? I checked the fan clearance with the shroud at the bottom and it seems close to me....maybe less then a 1/2" between fan and bottom shroud. Motor mount replacement time?????

thanks.

 

[HISSIN50]

Thanks...will look into those. Does the tranny only have 1 mount? Also, anybody think of other things I could do while I have the engine jacked up a bit??? I checked the fan clearance with the shroud at the bottom and it seems close to me....maybe less then a 1/2" between fan and bottom shroud. Motor mount replacement time?????

thanks.

yep, one mount for the trans. you do jack the motor up a bit. if you have a mech fan, i would remove the shroud and fan so you have clearance. oil filter coming out helps. the fact that the shroud is close to the fan is a sign of the mounts being not too hot.

if you get parts store mounts, i would get ones for a 93 (or any fox 3 vert mounts). they are captured (stock hardtop mounts are not). with the ES mounts, i dont think there is a choice. i just said something in case you do go with parts store mounts.
not a bad job.
good luck.

 

[PNY PWR]

there's the main mount for the tranny to crossmember and there's bushings for the crossmember to frame.

crossmember to frame

motor and trans mount kit

 

[fost9508]

hissin

would you recommend the energy suspension mount like suggest agove????

or will the 93 work fine????

Thanks...also any other work while I am there....like the rear main seal

 

[HISSIN50]

hissin

would you recommend the energy suspension mount like suggest agove????

or will the 93 work fine????

Thanks...also any other work while I am there....like the rear main seal

any of the name brand poly units should be fine. i only tossed out what i did because that is the route i took. the mounts from the parts store are 1/3 the cost of poly (all 3 for 50 bucks). i am poor, so that is what i did. had i the money, i would have gone poly for sure.
for awhile there was scuttlebutt about not using 3 poly mounts together (i.e. ok to use 2 poly motor mounts, but keep the trans mount rubber), but it seems quite a few folks run with all 3 being poly and have no issues. i would have no issues trying all three out of poly unless someone objects. i could also be thinking of another car where that was the case (im old and get confused. ).

so poly is good, and otherwise, should you decide to go with cheapies, the captured 93 mounts (or vert mounts from 88 up, i know) would be what i would get (my 88 vert's part number is the same as the hardtop 93's). cool? i figured you are going poly and you should enjoy it.
EDIT: wow that was clear as mud.
good luck.

 

[jrichker]

The "cookie cutter cut & paste" is here for a reason - people keep asking the same questions over & over again. No matter what you think about my methods (or me for that matter), the information on oil pump or motor mount change has the major highlights on what you need to do if you take time to read them carefully. I have been there & done that for most everything I have a tech note on.
Experience does matter...

 

[fost9508]

jrichker,

By no means did I mean to offend you. I have seen you replay to so many of the same questions, that I just wanted to let you know that I had already digested your info. I thouhgt I made that clear by thanking your for the information, but I guess not. So here I am saying that I appreciated all the help, and didn't want to waste your time, by having you re post the stuff I had already read....Hope this clears up the confusion. I will PM you just incase you don't see this post.

Thanks,

 

[flyinghi3]

spend the extra $15 and replace the two crossmember bushing while your changing the tranny mount. they are real easy to replace. I was surprised on how crappy the stock crossmembers bushing were when i took them out.

 

[PNY PWR]

I was surprised on how crappy the stock crossmembers bushing were when i took them out.

Really? I'm never surprised by how crappy the stock stuff is

 

[5spd GT]

So why exactly do people buy the poly mounts - both tranny and motor mounts...

I need to replace mine here pretty soon...I was wanting the OEM ones...they will "ride" nicer for my daily driver...

 

[HISSIN50]

poly is stiffer. it goes along with the general idea that people want more radical stuff. with modded engines, it can make sense (otherwise stock mounts could be overcome, whereas the polys handle the extra stress/torque, sorta' equating to a stock mount on a stock motor.
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I think Joe does a great job with the posts he has; great idea IMHO. many of us (except Michael who is always eloquent) tend to ramble a bit. I'm even too lazy to use decent punctuation.

composing a very thorough response and using it as a 'master' post is great, i think. if i was not so lazy (and had something useful to say) i would consider doing the same thing. how many times has his "no start checklist" been linked, used, posted. awesome list.

and for the record he does make new posts; he did for me once. he even took a pic or two and posted them, which really helped me out. and the info on his site is cool too.
this is not in response to anyone's post on this thread as no one meant disrespect. i just like the way he does things.

 

[PNY PWR]

Also poly mounts will last alot longer and are impervious to oil and such which will break down a rubber mount and cause failure. You won't really notice much more vibration with the poly mounts, they are fine for a daily driver. When you get into solid mounts then you tend to get the vibration and harshness.

 

[fost9508]

Okay, one more question and I will stop bothering people with my poopie motor mount problem. Seeing how the motor mounts I am looking at are around 129.00, I have thought about just installing the tranny mount right now and worrying about the motor mounts later, prolly after the holidays. I have a couple of questions.

1) Can the tranny mount only be replaced while the motor is jacked up, or does the tranny have enough give to allow the install?

2) My motor mounts are not in the best condition, ok I think, but not perfect. Could I run into a problem installing the tranny mount now and the motor mounts later? Also, my motor mounts are stock I believe and the new tranny mount will be poly.

Thanks again!

 

[PNY PWR]

I'm running just the poly tranny mount right now with stock motor mounts (haven't gotten to them yet) Haven't had any problems and that's even with using drag radials at the strip and a 1.9 60' time. It will be said that you'll break the bell housing just to let you know.

Don't need to jack up motor to replace the tranny mount only, just the rear of the tranny. You can replace the motor mounts later just as easy as doing it all at the same time.

 

[slo65]

hey guys not to hijack, but any tips on how to jack up the motor while doin the motor mounts? i looked at mine, and .... they're just plain ol unsafe looking all cracked and yeah engine rocks quite a bit so i wanna get these done

 

[fost9508]

slo65.

Do a forum search "motor mounts" and you will get tons of stuff. It boils down to either jacking up from the bottom around the oil pan area with softners or using a hoist from above. Do the search.

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