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Moving From Porsche To Mustang, Seeking Reliability And Simplicity

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I've been wrenching Porsche's for about ten years but am now in need of a four seater and the Mustang, IMHO, is the best looking four seater out there.
I know nothing about working on them though.
Hence I'd like to solicit opinions on which Mustang generation (GT manual only, not interested in V6 or automatic) is both the simplest design (i.e. easy to DIY) as well as the most reliable (i.e. less time in the garage the better)...?
 

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What type of changes are you looking to make that will require work? The car is very serviceable in general, what is the intended purpose of the car? Street cruiser, drag race, road course? I think you will find the S550 platform most near to the handling characteristics that your Porsche had.
 

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It's good looking but the back seats are pretty much useless Haha they are just there to bring insurance down
 
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Not looking to do many mods, if any. Maybe beefier sway bars and wheel spacers and a new paint job but that would be it. It would be used both as a daily driver at times and also for road trips. I just don't want to get into something that is constantly in disrepair and that's makes for overly complicated DIY maintenance.
I referenced the prior Porsche experience not to get a comparable car, I think they're just two very different animals, but rather to see if anyone who has/had both could opine on which Mustang generation is easier to maintain.
 

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I mean its hard to say it depends what you get sounds like you want a used one and how well maintained and how much maintenance it needs is gonna depend on how well the last owner took care of i
 
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In the Porsche world, newer = more moving parts = less DIY friendly = not what I'm looking for. If someone asked me the reverse question I'd tell them something like:
"From '99-'05 the IMS bearing was prone to failure which resulted in acute CEF. The bearing can be upgraded, ideally while re-doing the clutch, for about $1k-$2k. From '06-'08 the bearing was encased within the engine block so upgrading it was far more costly so stay away from '06-'08 models. Starting in '09 a re-design did away with the bearing so, if within the budget, get as close to an '09 as possible."
 

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Haven't been working on them long, so take my advice with a grain of salt. If anyone contradicts me, I'm probably wrong.

Mustangs in general are pretty reliable, within the usual limitations of age and abuse. They also have a reputation of being easy to work on. I've heard in a few places that the Mustang aftermarket is the biggest of any car model, and Ford is generally friendly to that aftermarket.

Don't know how old you're wanting to go, but before 1994, the "GT" name didn't mean nearly as much. They put the V8 and the enhanced drivetrain in a lot of base models back then, and those base models are actually more desirable for some people, particularly the notchbacks. In 1994, they moved to the current system where "GT" is equivalent to "V8 engine".

If you go really old, the 302/5.0 Windsor engines from about 1983 onward were mated with a T5 manual transmission. The engine in stock form pushes the T5 pretty close to its limits, so any power mods may result in broken transmissions. They did make some changes to the T5 over time to increase its capacity, and the aftermarket has done some things as well. Starting with the 1996 model year, GTs went to the "Modular" 4.6L engine and an upgraded transmission.

GTs between 2005 and sometime in 2008 have an... interesting spark plug design, which results in spark plugs breaking off upon removal and leaving some of themselves in the engine. There's a special procedure for removing these plugs which is supposed to help avoid the problem, and special tools for extracting the left-behind pieces when they do break, so it's not a total disaster if it happens, but it's not fun. They redesigned the plugs for the 2008 model year, but I've heard rumors that some early 2008 models have the old design.

There were complaints about the manual transmission in 2011 and later GTs, but I don't know whether those complaints were just about shift feel, or if there were actual problems.

Those are all the things I know about.
 
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Why would you want a new paint job? Just get the color you want.
 
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Stan McKinney said:
Why would you want a new paint job? Just get the color you want.
Click to expand...

Painting a car lime green is easy, finding a car that is well maintained at a reasonable price is hard.
 
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