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Mustang Cobra Engine vs. Mark VIII(8) Engine Quesiton

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1984Convert

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Hello,

I was looking to buy what I'm told to be is a 2001 Mustang Cobra engine. The problem is in the picture it has the intech vavle covers. These valve covers are on the mark 8 engine which doesnt have the forged crank as a lot of you know. I asked the guy about the engine and he insists its a 2001 Cobra engine out of his Mustang Cobra. But before I buy it I need to make sure its the Cobra. So my question is, are there any visable signs that I would be able to tell if its one motor or the other? Example of what i mean, I read on a site that the Mark 8 has a 6 bolt crank where as the Cobra has the 8 bolt; is this true?

Thanks for the help.
 

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On the early mark VIII engines, the throttle body is near the fire wall. That should be a dead give away. If it says 'intech' I would be scared. I've only see that on the fwd 4v, which absolutely won't work for you.
 

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Thanks for the quick response.

The intake on it is a cobra one that leads to the left side(passengers). I know the Mark 8 has different heads so i was wondering, can that intake be put on those heads?
 

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I beleive you can use the cobra intakes on the mark 8 engine. I think you need the correct IRCM plates (is that what they are called?) and the cobra intake.

Far as I know, the rule of thumb for the forged crank, is the type of transmission the car origionally had. If it was an auto car (like the mark 8), then it got a cast crank. Unless you plan to make more than 600hp, it probably doesn't matter which crank you have though.

Other than the intake and crank, there really isn't much difference between the mark 8 and cobra engines. If you insist on a forged crank, you can have the owner take a picture of the back of the crank to verify that.
 

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It would need to be forged so thats why I'm woried. What would i look for in the the back of the crank?
 

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the number of bolts that hold the flex plate/ flywheel on.

cast is 6 bolts, forged is 8 bolts
 
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There are plenty of 8 bolt cast cranks out there. 1999 and 2000 gt's have a Windsor pi 4.6 with an 8 bolt cast crank. It really doesn't matter though how many bolts they have. As far as the cast crank compared to the forged unit, it's more about rpm capability than load capacity. The forged unit is more stable as RPM increases due to the center counterweights. However, I have never even heard of a cast crank breaking. I ran a supercharged combo with 586 HP at the wheels at 7000 RPM with a cast crank. I figure that is roughly 850 HP that the crank is seeing when you account for drivetrain losses and the power used by the supercharger. The crank never had a problem.

Anyway, there are a couple of other differences with the engines. The intake manifold is different obviously. The camshafts are also unique to the mark VIII, they are set for more low end torque due to the extra weight of the mark VIII.
 
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