mustang gts?
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whitesqual
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There's no way to tell a 1995 GT and 1995 GTS apart just by looking at the VIN, so you see GT/GTS. Short of ordering a build sheet form Ford, the only way to tell is to inspect the vehicle and see what parts it has on it. Or more appropriately, what parts are missing.
cjrpony
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One way to sort of find out is to check out your data sticker on the door jamb and look for the interior code. 6F RED, 6J BLACK, 6S SADDLE 66 OPAL are V6 and GTS codes. GT models do not have these interior codes, they have a 2 or 4 (Leather) in front.
Since GTS could be ordered with any options you wanted, I think you may still have a GTS with a GT interior code, but I don't think you would have a GT with a V6 interior code, so I think that is a pretty good sign.
If you have the original window sticker, I think the GTS was an option code 248A.
I have a GTS with the 6J interior, but I don't have my title handy to see what it says on it.
alleymad95GT
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Is the car original? If so, a dead giveaway will be the seats. The GTS has V6 seats. They look completely different than the GT seats. Unless someone pulled a set out of a junked V6 and put them into a GT. Then there would be a GT with V6 seats...
The GT had lighted visors as standard equipment. So, if your visors are not lit up, then it COULD be a GTS (of course, someone could have just changed them out to fool you)...
It may actually be easier to confirm what you do not have that is standard on a GT to see if you truly have a GTS
The GT will ALWAYS have:
Spoiler
Fog-lights
Lighted visors
GT seats
Power windows / locks / trunk popper thingy
But, all of this could conceivably be switched, so...that being said, I doubt it would be worth the time and effort to "fake" a GTS. But, who knows. People are a lot weirder than you might think. And, some of those suckers are pretty rare (like there are 25 that are Vibrant Red - paint code ES I believe).
You really need the window sticker. It will say if it is a GTS or a GT.
The VIN does not code for GTS as far as I can tell:
1FA = Ford Motor Company USA Ford passenger car
L = driver/passenger air bags
P40 = Coupe
P42 = Coupe GT (this is the number for the GT or the GTS)
P42 = Coupe Cobra
P44 = Convertible
P45 = Convertible GT
P45 = Convertible Cobra
4 = 145hp V6
T = 215hp V8 (this is the number for the GT or the GTS)
D = 240hp V8 (Cobra)
C = 300hp V8 (Cobra R)
0-9 or X = Check Digit
S = 1995
F = Dearborn, Michigan
The numbers after the F are the production number. So, 000001 would be the very first to roll off the line in 1995.
Now, I have seen on certain websites that there is "POSSIBLY" a P41 VIN. If they actually exist, then I would assume that would signify a GTS and it would mean your VIN looks like:
1FAL P41T X SF XXXXXX (where the Xs can be any number)
I have never actually seen one of these VINs, so I have no idea if it is true or not...
Another bit of information I have found floating around pertains to the options you could get on the GTS. I have read that "A GTS can get any option available on the V6." So, it could be pretty loaded up and still be a GTS I suppose.
That's what I have discovered digging around on the web. It may be true or it may not be. If anyone can do any better, feel free...
The GT had lighted visors as standard equipment. So, if your visors are not lit up, then it COULD be a GTS (of course, someone could have just changed them out to fool you)...
It may actually be easier to confirm what you do not have that is standard on a GT to see if you truly have a GTS
The GT will ALWAYS have:
Spoiler
Fog-lights
Lighted visors
GT seats
Power windows / locks / trunk popper thingy
But, all of this could conceivably be switched, so...that being said, I doubt it would be worth the time and effort to "fake" a GTS. But, who knows. People are a lot weirder than you might think. And, some of those suckers are pretty rare (like there are 25 that are Vibrant Red - paint code ES I believe).
You really need the window sticker. It will say if it is a GTS or a GT.
The VIN does not code for GTS as far as I can tell:
1FA = Ford Motor Company USA Ford passenger car
L = driver/passenger air bags
P40 = Coupe
P42 = Coupe GT (this is the number for the GT or the GTS)
P42 = Coupe Cobra
P44 = Convertible
P45 = Convertible GT
P45 = Convertible Cobra
4 = 145hp V6
T = 215hp V8 (this is the number for the GT or the GTS)
D = 240hp V8 (Cobra)
C = 300hp V8 (Cobra R)
0-9 or X = Check Digit
S = 1995
F = Dearborn, Michigan
The numbers after the F are the production number. So, 000001 would be the very first to roll off the line in 1995.
Now, I have seen on certain websites that there is "POSSIBLY" a P41 VIN. If they actually exist, then I would assume that would signify a GTS and it would mean your VIN looks like:
1FAL P41T X SF XXXXXX (where the Xs can be any number)
I have never actually seen one of these VINs, so I have no idea if it is true or not...
Another bit of information I have found floating around pertains to the options you could get on the GTS. I have read that "A GTS can get any option available on the V6." So, it could be pretty loaded up and still be a GTS I suppose.
That's what I have discovered digging around on the web. It may be true or it may not be. If anyone can do any better, feel free...
alleymad95GT
Member
Titles are useless as a means of figuring out vehicle specific information, at least in my state. My state can't even figure out that if they have no money they can't spend money. I don't trust them to know jack crap about a car.
For example, Michigan titles my Mustang GT as a subcompact. Yeah, I would group it in there with an Aspire; how about you? I have seen a title for a Suburban that says "van" and for a minivan that says "station wagon." A Jeep Grand Cherokee, for what it is worth, is also a station wagon apparently.
For example, Michigan titles my Mustang GT as a subcompact. Yeah, I would group it in there with an Aspire; how about you? I have seen a title for a Suburban that says "van" and for a minivan that says "station wagon." A Jeep Grand Cherokee, for what it is worth, is also a station wagon apparently.
248A I believe is the delete package used on the 96-98 GT's as well, but those GT's were not designated a GTS. That was only for 95.
Alleymad95GT, there is no P41 in the VIN. I own a GTS, which is verified by having the original window sticker when I bought the car, and my insurance information also calls it a GTS. The seats are the dead giveaway. Cloth, V6 'grandma material' seats look worlds different than the GT buckets. Imagine literally a butt pad and back pad, and you've got V6 seats' image... If anyone wants/needs any info on GTS, I've researched the hell out of them (build numbers, what they do/don't come with, etc, etc), so feel free to ask me.
alleymad95GT
Member
I thought as much, but the American Muscle site references a P41 VIN code for an "LX Coupe" for our cars, so...
Of course, they also reference an "E" engine when we should all know it is really a "T"...
Those v6 seats aren't even really 'bucket' seats IMO. More like a straight up cut apart bench seat. Other giveaways of it being a GTS would be the seating options on the driver's seat. A lot of people say that GTS's ALL have a power driver's seat, but mine does not. The visor mirrors are not illuminated, fog lights are not there, spoiler is not there, Pony rims, and depending on your interior package (mine was a package group two), you may or may not have cruise/tilt wheel/power locks and windows.
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