Mustang Vs. Evo

[Mach428]

OMG, this isn't that hard to comprehend! from a stop, the Evo can get a jump on the Cobra, but by the 1/8th mile, the Cobra will be starting to pass it. it's as simple as the power to weight ratio. this is FACT not my opinion. yes, traction can be a problem with Cobras, but a 2.3' 60' is horrible even for a Cobra. ask any drag racer. like i said before, from a roll, the Evo is toast. awd is only good for the launch, after that, it hurts acceleration. again, this is a fact. please educate yourself before posting false information.

Don't tell me to educate myself before posting. 1. The Evo And the WRX are on the same exact level and have allmost the same exact Numbers, there for it would be acceptable to use a WRX article for comparison. The only diffrence between the two is the evo makes up what it looses to the WRX in gearing 2. The Evo has a very slightly higher power the weight ratio then the Cobra! 3. Not everything is based on how much power you have under the hood

 

[Brisk281GT]

Yes they do 12.9, get the hotrod Mag shootout between the WRS STI and the 2003 Cobra

So now the STi is the Evo ??? What the hell are you even talking about.
And the Evo has the "potential" to smoke a brand new Ford GT but not if the GT driver could drive and knows how to launch. The Evo (if that is the car we are even discussing ) is a fast car but given equal drivers the Cobra is superior. Also, the longer the race the more ownage the Cobra will inflict. AWD starts sucking the faster you go.

AWD is cool and may get you an inital jump off the line (depending on how much you like to abuse the car) but is not ideal in street racing. That's why in the Porsche line, the GT2 (RWD) is superior in performance to the 911 Turbo (AWD).

 

[el_kid_1]

hard decision...

I would bring home both!

 

[Brisk281GT]

Don't tell me to educate myself before posting. 1. The Evo And the WRX are on the same exact level and have allmost the same exact Numbers, there for it would be acceptable to use a WRX article for comparison. The only diffrence between the two is the evo makes up what it looses to the WRX in gearing 2. The Evo has a very slightly higher power the weight ratio then the Cobra! 3. Not everything is based on how much power you have under the hood

So Because the Z06 and the 2003 Cobra have many of the same performance numbers (many magazines like motortrend have reported many similar numbers) then the two are easily interchangeable in performace comparisons C'mon man, give me a break. Stop trying to justify your answers...

 

[DBMSTNG]

Don't tell me to educate myself before posting. 1. The Evo And the WRX are on the same exact level and have allmost the same exact Numbers, there for it would be acceptable to use a WRX article for comparison. 2. The Evo has a higher power the weight ratio then the Cobra!

again, you need to educate yourself. also you need a math lesson. see below


Evo curb weight - 3263lbs
Evo horsepower - 271hp
Evo power to weight ratio = 12.04lbs/hp

Cobra curb weight - 3600lbs
Cobra horsepower 400~425 actual hp. (390 rated)
Cobra power to weight ratio = 9.23lbs/hp <--using rated hp

you got

the STi and the Evo DO NOT have the same acceleration. the STi is about .4 seconds faster.

 

[mogs01gt]

well if everying is not based on the power of the motor, then I guess we can throw out AWD because that is the ONLY thing STI's and EVOs having going for them.

other than a turbo'ed built 4 cylinder.

 

[jadesville]

I would bring home both!

that option never occured to me

 

[DBMSTNG]

oh yeah, another thing Mach428...

as you should know, there is more parasitic loss in an awd system than a 2wd platform. if you want to measure wheel horsepower to weight ratios (which is more accurate) then the Cobra would win by a larger margin.

again

 

[Mach428]

Also, the longer the race the more ownage the Cobra will inflict. AWD starts sucking the faster you go.

I totally agree with that, but the Cobra in any situation, has to play a huge game in catch up when raceing an Evo from a dead stop, so much so the the 1/4 mile times do not differ that greatly as compared to the vastly diffrent trap times. I'm in no way saying the Evo could ever smoke a Cobra in 1/4, but in a stoplight race, 0-70-0 the Evo will most likely come out over a Cobra.

 

[Mach428]

oh yeah, another thing Mach428...

as you should know, there is more parasitic loss in an awd system than a 2wd platform. if you want to measure wheel horsepower to weight ratios (which is more accurate) then the Cobra would win by a larger margin.

again

Yea, it's 22% to be exact incase you didn't know, But i think your forgeting AWD only kicks in when needed. DBMSTNG, I can clearly see your one of those people who makes anyone out of the the Mustang community think negatively about our cars. You simply have no respect for any other vehical. Go to you local car club and do a stop light race with an Evo then tell me about it.

 

[White360RFnSwee]

I totally agree with that, but the Cobra in any situation, has to play a huge game in catch up when raceing an Evo from a dead stop, so much so the the 1/4 mile times do not differ that greatly as compared to the vastly diffrent trap times. I'm in no way saying the Evo could ever smoke a Cobra in 1/4, but in a stoplight race, 0-70-0 the Evo will most likely come out over a Cobra.

Evos dont trap 109 mph.. Cobras do.

Also, where the hell did you get 3600 lbs for a Cobra?

I weighed my car all stock and it weighed 3520.. full tank of gas.

Evo will get smoked from a roll, it will get beat from a dig. I cut 1.9s with my Cobra, bone stock.

12.91 @ 110 mph... go show me an evo ALL STOCK that will match that time.

-Ryan

 

[JonJon]

oy

 

[DBMSTNG]

Evos dont trap 109 mph.. Cobras do.

Also, where the hell did you get 3600 lbs for a Cobra?

I weighed my car all stock and it weighed 3520.. full tank of gas.

Evo will get smoked from a roll, it will get beat from a dig. I cut 1.9s with my Cobra, bone stock.

12.91 @ 110 mph... go show me an evo ALL STOCK that will match that time.

-Ryan

the 3600lbs was from me. i got that from a Ford estimate. hey, what's an extra 80lbs? either way, it proved my point. i doubt Mach428 will pay attention to your post.

 

[jadesville]

the 3600lbs was from me. i got that from a Ford estimate. hey, what's an extra 80lbs? either way, it proved my point. i doubt Mach428 will pay attention to your post.

they probably weighed it with one of their fat ass ceo's in the car, 3600lb seems alot too, but i guess its possible with 100+lbs of gas in the back

 

[DBMSTNG]

Yea, it's 22% to be exact incase you didn't know, But i think your forgeting AWD only kicks in when needed. DBMSTNG, I can clearly see your one of those people who makes anyone out of the the Mustang community think negatively about our cars. You simply have no respect for any other vehical. Go to you local car club and do a stop light race with an Evo then tell me about it.

so because i stated the FACTS that a Cobra is faster in the 1/4mi and from a roll, as well as having a better power to weight ratio, that means i'm talking negatively about it? you are a fool. you have been proven wrong on several accounts and now you want to (underservedly) brand me as being disrespectful of all cars not Mustang? well, ignorance is bliss. or so they say. please show me one time i said anything negative about the Evo? again, i stated FACTS. please, go learn about the Evo, learn math skills, and get some glasses (because you obviously can't see as clear as you think).

and as far as me vs. Evo's, i can handle my own. so don't you worry.

be a man, admit you were wrong, stop this foolishness, and move on please.

 

[Mach428]

Forget it, there is no such thing as talking in an educated mannor in this post. I simply got owned and have no clue what i'm talking about. Oh sorry, I forgot, the 03 Cobra was built by God him self and Jesus sits in the passenger seat every time the ignition is switiched.

 

[mogs01gt]

Forget it, there is no such thing as talking in an educated mannor in this post. I simply got owned and have no clue what i'm talking about. Oh sorry, I forgot, the 03 Cobra was built by God him self and Jesus sits in the passenger seat every time the ignition is switiched.

if you like to suck off the EVo so much, sell your car and go buy one.

 

[DBMSTNG]

Forget it, there is no such thing as talking in an educated mannor in this post. I simply got owned and have no clue what i'm talking about. Oh sorry, I forgot, the 03 Cobra was built by God him self and Jesus sits in the passenger seat every time the ignition is switiched.

educated? i posted several facts, you on the other hand, posted misinformation. the facts don't lie. please feel free to look them up yourself. go to the the Evo forum and ask them. no one said the Cobra was made by god, that's just your denial tactic.

this was fun

i love educating people, it makes me feel all warm and tingly inside.

 

[STi]

Don't tell me to educate myself before posting. 1. The Evo And the WRX are on the same exact level and have allmost the same exact Numbers, there for it would be acceptable to use a WRX article for comparison. The only diffrence between the two is the evo makes up what it looses to the WRX in gearing 2. The Evo has a very slightly higher power the weight ratio then the Cobra! 3. Not everything is based on how much power you have under the hood

Ummm....WTF mate? The STi has 30 more hp than the Evo, better gearing, a better AWD system (IMO) and they weigh the same (if DBMSTNG was right on the Evo's weight of 3263).

Four tenths of a second is quite a difference, and that's what it is between the Evo and STi, so they are not that similar. Yes, both are based on economy cars, have AWD and turboed 4-bangers, but that's about it.

And using that comparison between the Cobra and STi was stupid, that had to have been the most poorly driven Cobra ever tested, because even with my minor mods, I still can't beat a well-driven 2003 Cobra.

...just wait until the end of this summer

 

[Mach428]

educated? i posted several facts, you on the other hand, posted misinformation. the facts don't lie. please feel free to look them up yourself. go to the the Evo forum and ask them. no one said the Cobra was made by god, that's just your denial tactic.

this was fun

i love educating people, it makes me feel all warm and tingly inside.

Wasn't refering to you, some people seem to think the Cobra will romp anything "Just because it has 420 horses" I've read stories of people claiming to beat Z06's with their Cobra, something I doubt. Sorry about my info, I did get the Evo and WRX mixed up, and I was thinking of the Hot Rod Mag shoot out between the STI and Cobra.