My first blower

dhsmustang

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I'm finally seriously looking into getting my first supercharger but I am looking into getting the cheapest possible setup since I will be paying for college next year. I'm also a little leary of tapping the oil pan..so I am considering a Powerdyne BD600. I know not a whole lot of people have these and they don't make a whole lot of power but what have you heard about them? Also, will I need to upgrade my fuel pump and injectors?

 

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IMO if you are going to do something, do it right. Do some research on some brands that have been proven for our cars. Vortech, Kenne Bell, Procharger, all big names with proven histories. Powerdyne may or may not be that great I have no personal experience. But I can tell you I have had my vortech running 10 pounds for over 3 years and 40k miles on the stock engine. It has never once been in the shop for leaks or anything like that. You need to do what you feel is best for you. I found my blower on ebay for 1900, and had modular depot do the install. Tapping the oil pan was no problem for them. Honestly a good used setup is a good way to go as long as you get the history on the blower. I hope this has helped, I tried to speak to you out of my own experience. Get a good tune and these engines can really make good , reliable power
edit: yes and yes on fule pump/injectors

 

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you can find a good used vortech setup for pretty cheap. In fact, you can just look on Ebay for a good used head unit, and head over to superchargersonline.com to pick up the rest of the kit.

You will need upgraded injectors and FP.

 

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Yea I am looking to buy my first blower as well! looking around might buy a vortech head unit used and the rest new!

 

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The words "cheepest" and "supercharger" should never be used in the same sentence!! There is alot of additional costs associated with a supercharger along with the regular upkeep of it and the car itself. IMO wait till after college when you can afford to go with a quality setup and can afford the upkeep from the wear and tear of the additional power.

 

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SilverBullet00

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there have been people that build their own kits for less than 2G's. If you are patient and shop around, you can get a quality vortech kit.

 

dhsmustang

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i know no one likes the powerdynes but i think i am gonna go with it. i only want to make around 6-7 pounds of boost. i dont need huge numbers. how much power will these net me?

 

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dhsmustang said:

i know no one likes the powerdynes but i think i am gonna go with it. i only want to make around 6-7 pounds of boost. i dont need huge numbers. how much power will these net me?

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you should probably listen to the advice everyone has given you.

Go ahead and buy that powerdyne...its gonna make far less power than the vortech and your 6-7 pounds is gonna be like 3-4.

Those things make like 5 psi with a 9 lb pulley.

It will most likely break...good thing is they can be rebuilt like 10x better.

Listen to everyone...buy a used vortech/procharger.

 

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justinschmidt1 said:

you should probably listen to the advice everyone has given you.

Listen to everyone...buy a used vortech/procharger.

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+1

Paxton novi 1000 would work for you as well. My buddy used to have a 99 with a novi 1000 on it, non-intercooled. Ran pretty darn good for the time he had it, could hang with an STi from a roll. Then he ran it into a tree

IMO if you cant go with a name brand well associated with mustangs, you really shouldnt bother. You are going to college, and obviously low on cash...maybe a blower REALLY isnt the right time right now. Gotta separate the wants from needs, and do the wants when the needs are taken care of. What if you're in college and the motor goes? Then what?

Plus it wouldnt hurt to have something that shops would be familiar with, or people on internet forums are used to in case you have issues. I've NEVER seen anyone on the 4.6 talk or tech forums with a powerdyne...

 

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Power is addicting. You say now, like many of us do, that it will be enough. It never is. I bought my used 1.7 KB for 3K and I love it. Now I'm into a new engine, heads, cams and will be going with a bigger blower soon. My advice is plan ahead with a blower that can be upgraded. Listen to the advice above. Shop around for reliable brand name. You'll be glad you did.

 

dhsmustang

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yeah I've decided to go with a paxton. if i keep the boost low will i need a tune?

 

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you will need a tune no matter what...

If you want a decent system with everything you need (tune included) take a look at the Mongoose kits from Modular Power House, even if you don't go with them you will have an idea of everything you will need.

 

dhsmustang

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is this something that i can do with a tuner by myself bc there are no dynos around my place

 

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By the questions you are asking, I would have to say no. You need to be able to moniter a/f ratio at all ranges of rpm. *Note* everyone's cars are different. The easiest way to do this is to have it dyno'ed. Finding out how much power it makes is just a bonus.

 

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I wouldn't even bother with your circumstances. This is going to cost you money and with out a dyno to tune the thing properly for you its going to cost you even more if you blow the motor. Good engines aren't cheap. Just keep it stock until you can afford a reliable beater, the down time, and a quality setup and tune.

 

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'03GTinFLA

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Does MPH do mail order tunes with thier Mongoose kits they sell? It's been so long since I was rearching blowers, but that might be a good option if you don't have a dyno around.

 

dhsmustang

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CTGrey02 said:

I wouldn't even bother with your circumstances. This is going to cost you money and with out a dyno to tune the thing properly for you its going to cost you even more if you blow the motor. Good engines aren't cheap. Just keep it stock until you can afford a reliable beater, the down time, and a quality setup and tune.

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you know after thinking about it you're right. I think I could just do some other minor things right now instead of supercharging it. Although it may not seem like it from these questions, I'm a pretty capable mechanic. Just don't know anything about superchargers..

any suggestions as to what i should look into now?

 

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'03GTinFLA said:

Does MPH do mail order tunes with thier Mongoose kits they sell? It's been so long since I was rearching blowers, but that might be a good option if you don't have a dyno around.

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Their kit comes with EVERYTHING you need, including the tune for your mods

 

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I got away on my supercharger setup for pretty cheap by going used.

 

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Rule of Thumb....take what you think all of the parts to do your blower install are going to cost, then add 50% for the miscellaneous things you never think of. Never, have I ever seen someone start a project with a particular financial limit in mind, that hasn't gone over it by leaps and bounds! For my money, if I was trying to be budget conscious with the best “bang for the buck” in mind, I’d probably look into a Vortech SQ. Complete, inexpensive (compared to most) and still plenty of room to grow.