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nunly94gt

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Ok, I did the MAF conversion on my 88GT. I cant get it to idle for anything. Half the time it wont stay running, the other half I have to keep my foot on it above 2k to keep it running. When it drops below 1500 it immediately drops to 500 and lopes for a minute then dies off. It will not start sometimes, then it starts great. All my connections look good but its getting dark.
It even backfired a little from time to time. I need some help fast!!!! If it sounds like a problem from the wiring end, which part? I ran the FP relay wire and the 2 VSS wires also. The only thing wierd is that the previous owner took the O2 sensors off the car. Was never a problem except for a little rich before.

Anybody got a clue?????
I used the IST MAF wiring kit......a 70mm cobra MAF for 19lbers and stock intake tubes from a 92GT.

Jason
 

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Dumping The computer Diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 24-Apr-2009 to add warning to turn off A/C and place transmission in Neutral and dumping Engine Running codes.

Dump the codes and see what the computer says is wrong…Codes may be present in the computer even if the Check Engine light isn’t on.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

See Troublcodes.net Trouble Codes OBD & OBD2 Trouble Codes and Technical info & Tool Store. By BAT Auto Technical





If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems.

Codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see Equus - Digital Ford Code Reader (3145) – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
 

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Did you unhook the vaccuum line from the MAP sensor on the firewall and plug it? Oh, and I'd recommend o2 sensors.
 

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strtrcr50 said:
Did you unhook the vaccuum line from the MAP sensor on the firewall and plug it? Oh, and I'd recommend o2 sensors.
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I second the O2 sensors. When I got my car it didn't have them, and I put them on and it runs so much better, and gas mileage is a lot better.
 

nunly94gt

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I at first forgot the Vacuum line, but then went back and unhooked it. it made it alot smoother but still shutting down on me.
 

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Do you have any codes?
 

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I havent yet, I have the old "star" tester at work. Ill bring it home and hit it tomorrow. Im gonna recheck my wires, it sounds like its not reading something correct. I know the O2 can be a problem but have never seen one cause my type of problem.
 

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Ok got it whooped!!!!!!!!

Seems that the signal wire wasnt pushed all the way into the harness plug. I pulled it right out when wiggle testing the wires. So its beat and idling fine.

Seems to be missing a little bit, and running rich due to my lack of O2 sensors. but I will take care of that soon. Atleast its drivable now and ready for some mods!!!!

Thanks for everyones help on this.:SNSign:
 
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