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GT98

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i'm really considering buying a shift kit or ratchet shifter for my AOD. The thing is, i don't know much about this stuff. What i'm looking for is a shifter that i can put on my stock tranny that will allow me to manually shift and hold any gear i want. would a B&M ratchet shifter be the way to go or a transgo shift kit? does the transgo shift kit come with a new shifter? ANY info will help. Whats up with the B&M Hammer Shifter? thanks all.
 
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No matter what shifter you use, the AOD only has three settings on it which are 1 / D and OD. or 1st / 3rd and 4th over drive. I raced an 88 gt with an AOD for years that was making 600hp. Here is how you can keep the car in the proper gear when racing. First drop the shifter down to 1. Launch the car and run it to the point you want to shift. Move the lever to the next notch which is D. The car will shift into second. As soon as you feel the car shift into second, immediately pull the lever back into the 1 position. I know you will be scared the first time but the transmission will not shift back into first. It will hold you in second. When you want to shift to 3rd gear, push the lever back to D. The car will shift. This is the only way you can keep an AOD in 2nd gear no matter what shifter you use. It works and wont hurt the tranny so dont be scared to try it. You will love being able to hold 2nd instead of the way early shift you are probably used to. I ran 10.20's with an Art Carr AOD long ago (1996). Have fun. Post how it turns out. P.S. I tried lots of aftermarket shifters on the AOD and always came back to the stock shifter. It works just fine.
 
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on my 01 gt after ist i can shift it up into 2nd then drive and its an AOD
 
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So I can hold any gear even with the stock shifter? That B&M Hammer shifter is really talkin to me though. It just looks a little confusing. But I've heard nothing but praises about it.
 
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Mustangl3 said:
on my 01 gt after ist i can shift it up into 2nd then drive and its an AOD
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If you have a Ford AOD, the shifter should say 1, d and OD. But have 4 gears. Yes the car shifts second but you cant hold second and manually shift unless you kick the shifter back to 1.

GT98 said:
So I can hold any gear even with the stock shifter? That B&M Hammer shifter is really talkin to me though. It just looks a little confusing. But I've heard nothing but praises about it.
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You can change the shifter but you still have to do what I explained. 1 to d then back to 1 then up to d. The shifter doesnt add a 2 slot. A shifter is only a rod with a cable attached. moving the rod moves the cable a set amount. the AOD only has 3 forward setting along with Park / Reverse and Neutral so no matter what shifter you put on it, the shifting doesnt change for the transmission.
 

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02roushstg3 said:
If you have a Ford AOD, the shifter should say 1, d and OD. But have 4 gears. Yes the car shifts second but you cant hold second and manually shift unless you kick the shifter back to 1.



You can change the shifter but you still have to do what I explained. 1 to d then back to 1 then up to d. The shifter doesnt add a 2 slot. A shifter is only a rod with a cable attached. moving the rod moves the cable a set amount. the AOD only has 3 forward setting along with Park / Reverse and Neutral so no matter what shifter you put on it, the shifting doesnt change for the transmission.
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1-2-D-R-P is what it should say
 
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trublustallion said:
1-2-D-R-P is what it should say
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My 88 had 1-D-OD-N-R-P Was an AOD. Drove it for years. If you have 1-2-D-N-R-P you probably have a 4r55e or 5r55e not an AOD.
 
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02roushstg3 on the newer stangs there is 1st 2nd nad drive with an over drive button on the sidedidnt know you were talking about an 88
 

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oops, forgot the neutral, but i have the 457RW(dont know the exact number) or something like that, and it's 1-2-D-N-R-P and seperate OD button


anyways, I have no idea what my point was, just keep going with the rest
 

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Ya the tranny is a 4r70w and first then second then drive and od is controlled by a button on the shifter. If the car is in 2 on the shifter it will stay in 2(wont shift down at a stop sign either)
 
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How does the Hammer shifter work exactly? Do you shift it into 1, then hammer it into 2 and it springs back to the 1 position automatically for the 3-4 shift? I'm still confused as to how it works. No thread seems to have an explanation.
 
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GT98 said:
How does the Hammer shifter work exactly? Do you shift it into 1, then hammer it into 2 and it springs back to the 1 position automatically for the 3-4 shift? I'm still confused as to how it works. No thread seems to have an explanation.
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I think this thread is confusing because you are talking about different automatic transmissions. I have a 2000GT which has the 4R70W automatic transmission. I bought a Performance Automatics manual valve body, so I do all of my own shifting. Whatever gear I shift to, that's where it stays. 1st, 2nd, and 3rd are selected with the shifter and OD is with a button. Now, to prevent accidently shifting from 1st to 3rd while racing, I bought a B&M Hammer shifter. It is a ratchet shifter. To shift from 1st to 2nd, you push the handle all the way forward and it springs back to the original location. To shift from 2nd to 3rd, you push if forward again and it springs back again. To down shift, you pull it back and it springs forward. It's a great shifter and I really like it.
 
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jim, could you please post some pics of this set up? it sounds like it is a sweet deal, but i wouldn't like it if it ruined the "flow" of the interior...
 
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tarch said:
jim, could you please post some pics of this set up? it sounds like it is a sweet deal, but i wouldn't like it if it ruined the "flow" of the interior...
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Sorry, I don't have a digital camera, or I would be happy to. Mine looks like a totally stock installation. Higgins did the install. The housing part of the B&M shifter is inside the console with the top of the housing flush with the top of the console, just like stock. Nothing sticks up above the console except the shifter handle. There is a rubber boot around the bottom of the shifter handle.
 

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trublustallion said:
oops, forgot the neutral, but i have the 457RW(dont know the exact number) or something like that, and it's 1-2-D-N-R-P and seperate OD button


anyways, I have no idea what my point was, just keep going with the rest
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ont the 99+ auto's i belive ford changed over to the 4r70w with the pattern 1-2-D-N-R-P with the OD button on the side of the shifter. I got a B&M Hammer SHifter a while ago for my 99 gt and i love it!
 

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jimfitzgerald said:
I think this thread is confusing because you are talking about different automatic transmissions. I have a 2000GT which has the 4R70W automatic transmission. I bought a Performance Automatics manual valve body, so I do all of my own shifting. Whatever gear I shift to, that's where it stays. 1st, 2nd, and 3rd are selected with the shifter and OD is with a button. Now, to prevent accidently shifting from 1st to 3rd while racing, I bought a B&M Hammer shifter. It is a ratchet shifter. To shift from 1st to 2nd, you push the handle all the way forward and it springs back to the original location. To shift from 2nd to 3rd, you push if forward again and it springs back again. To down shift, you pull it back and it springs forward. It's a great shifter and I really like it.
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jim i jsut went to Performance Automatics web site, i couldnt find the manual valve body for the AODE (4R70W) could you help me out, i want to get one to go along with the torque converter i just bought.
 

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99prmustang said:
ont the 99+ auto's i belive ford changed over to the 4r70w with the pattern 1-2-D-N-R-P with the OD button on the side of the shifter. I got a B&M Hammer SHifter a while ago for my 99 gt and i love it!
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i think its 96+ my 97 has the 4r70w
 
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99prmustang said:
jim i jsut went to Performance Automatics web site, i couldnt find the manual valve body for the AODE (4R70W) could you help me out, i want to get one to go along with the torque converter i just bought.
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Go here and click the down arrow...

http://www.usaplaza.com/scripts/wcom_producttree.asp?StoreID=1078&ProductID=32204
 
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how do u get into reverse with the b&m hammer shifter
 
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