new 3.5L V6

Jeffspeed24 · Mar 13, 2004

where can I find more info on this and when is it coming out?

mball · Mar 13, 2004

Jeffspeed24 said:
where can I find more info on this and when is it coming out?

Hmmm? Do you mean the 05 V6 Mustang? They are going to be 4.0 not 3.5 and it appears they won't be out till sometime in Oct. Here is some infro on both the V6 and V8 models I came across specs

smokin'Red35th · Mar 13, 2004

dont get a V-6!!! go for the GT. you will definitely regret getting the V-6.

Jeffspeed24 · Mar 13, 2004

mball said:
Hmmm? Do you mean the 05 V6 Mustang? They are going to be 4.0 not 3.5 and it appears they won't be out till sometime in Oct. Here is some infro on both the V6 and V8 models I came across specs

I know about the 4.0's but i ran across some threads that stated a 260hp 3.5l was coming out later...............who knows

Jeffspeed24 · Mar 13, 2004

smokin'Red35th said:
dont get a V-6!!! go for the GT. you will definitely regret getting the V-6.

It all depends on my budget in a year, if im doing good, ill get the 06 V8, if not........ill get a V6 to mod.
i didnt want it to be my daily driver but it looks like ill have to trade in my ZX2 for any mustang.................well see though........

Omegalock · Mar 13, 2004

The last we heard the earliest the 3.5 will be ready was sometime in 06. But I wouldn't expect it to put out 260 horses. They might detune it a bit to 250 still very admirable and should hold it's own against other base model cars and I4 based stuff.

351CJ · Mar 13, 2004

Go to www.media.ford.com and do a search on "Duratec 35". There is pleanty of info there direct from Ford. If you're good at searching find the "Lima News", which is the local newspaper in Lima OH where the Duratec 35 will be built. They had a lot of info. on it too. You could also search "Automotive News" & "Detroit News" articles. Both newspapers had lots of info on the Duratec 35 announcement.

Here are the basics.

New Duratec engine family based on the Duratec 3.0, but with lots of improvements.
Displacement capability from 2.5 to 4.2 L.
First production version to be 3.5L - hence Duratec 35
Variable Valve timing.
Dual overhead cam, 4 valves per cyl.
Aluminum block (deep skirt 60 degree V) and aluminum heads.
Specifically designed to improve low end torque over current 4V designs.
Designed to be used in FWD / RWD & AWD vehicles.
The only version officially announced is an 87 octane version with 250 HP / 250 lb ft estimated.
Rumored 91 Octane version for Lincoln to fillow with 270 HP.
No detailed specifications have been released, ie. bore size, stroke, comprssion ratio, cam & valve specs, etc.
Production start end of calander year 2006 so the first models to see it will be 2007 MY vehicles.
Current planned production capacity 325,000 engnes / year.
No firm plans to use it in the Mustang.
Rumored to be slated for use in the 500 / Freestyle / Futura and the Lincoln & Mercury versions of those vehicles.

Z28x · Mar 13, 2004

Jeffspeed24 said:
It all depends on my budget in a year, if im doing good, ill get the 06 V8, if not........ill get a V6 to mod.
i didnt want it to be my daily driver but it looks like ill have to trade in my ZX2 for any mustang.................well see though........

Why don't you get a used '05 V8 for the same price as a new '06 V6? or new '05 left over? You won't regret the V8, it is a WAY better choice. Put you V6 mod money towards the V8, You will never get V8 power out of that V6, modding the V6 is a waste of money. Plus the V8 cars have better resale.

mball · Mar 13, 2004

Really? I didnt know they were working on V6 based on the Duratec engine, that is a pretty nice engine. This would explain the $7K gap in price from the base V6 to the GT then, if the base model starts at $18K and the GT starts at $25K, then this other V6 would probably fit right in around $21-$22K. If they really do make that engine and it comes with around 250HP that is going to be very sweet, and alot better on gas.

Wylde · Mar 13, 2004

Z28x said:
Why don't you get a used '05 V8 for the same price as a new '06 V6? or new '05 left over? You won't regret the V8, it is a WAY better choice. Put you V6 mod money towards the V8, You will never get V8 power out of that V6, modding the V6 is a waste of money. Plus the V8 cars have better resale.

V8 or none at all for me...I love the rumble of a V8 and missed it driving 4 and 6 cyl cars for the longest time (except for 2 of my trucks, one had a 5.0 and the other a 5.7)

awalbert88 · Mar 13, 2004

I really don't know where you guys keep getting the idea that we're going to see a 3.5L Duratec in the Mustang. It's like the $20K V8 rumor, but with less substance to it.

I'd love to see that motor, but it's too expensive for the base model Mustang. Maybe in a SOHC variant, but the DOHC motor is a bit too much for the price of the base Mustang.

351CJ · Mar 14, 2004

awalbert88 said:
I really don't know where you guys keep getting the idea that we're going to see a 3.5L Duratec in the Mustang.

You are correct. Ford has NOT said that they will put the new Duratec 35 in the Mustang. Some people have assumed it will be. Making assumtions can be dangerous.

ryanrule · Mar 14, 2004

the new sucks, especially since all other cars are upping horsepower and the v6 jsut stays the same

Boomer v3.8 · Mar 14, 2004

Well what do you think they'll use in the mustang after the 4.0 goes bye bye (which it will...within 2 years) and the 3.8/3.9 OHV engines kick the bucket?

/cough/ Duratec35 /cough/
There probably wasn't article stating it as the Duratec35..HOWEVER there was when it was reffered to as the 'cyclone engine' which the 35 eventually became known as

Remember there was always a plan to use the 3.0 Duratec and 4.0 SOHC that is going to be used (which will probably be a tad underated)
notice the 202 and 300hp were ***engineering estimates as of 2003 December.

awalbert88 · Mar 14, 2004

Where has it been said that the 4.0 SOHC is going to be gone in two years? I hope this is a stated fact from Ford and not another assumption. Because, you know, most people assumed the 3.8 OHV V6 would not still be around today. In fact, it wouldn't have been I suspect if not for the lack of a good replacement engine for the Windstar/Freestar.

Jeffspeed24 · Mar 15, 2004

Z28x said:
Why don't you get a used '05 V8 for the same price as a new '06 V6? or new '05 left over? You won't regret the V8, it is a WAY better choice. Put you V6 mod money towards the V8, You will never get V8 power out of that V6, modding the V6 is a waste of money. Plus the V8 cars have better resale.

well, i might not get a V6 but i probally have to get a used 03-04 mustang GT to get a V8

WaltA · Mar 16, 2004

Jeffspeed24 said:
It all depends on my budget in a year, if im doing good, ill get the 06 V8, if not........ill get a V6 to mod.

If your budget is tight, be careful of insurance too.

My insurance almost doubled going from a V6 to a GT (same insurance company, same driving record, etc).

Z28x · Mar 16, 2004

WaltA said:
My insurance almost doubled going from a V6 to a GT (same insurance company, same driving record, etc).

Was the car of the same year? that makes a difference.

WaltA · Mar 16, 2004

Z28x said:
Was the car of the same year? that makes a difference.

No, they were different model years. But I was compairing insurance cost when the V6 was brand new vs. insurance cost when the GT was brand new.

notched86 · Mar 16, 2004

I'm just glad to see the old 3.8 is being replaced with a more modern power plant. The 3.8 wasn't a terrible engine, but it was really starting to show its age.

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