New engine won't start

I just installed a new DSS 306 engine in my '91 LX Hatchback 5-speed. Its nothing to wild, just Edelbrock heads, Crane cam(2031), cobra intake. Anyway, I tried to start it for the first time with no luck. It turns over, and theres oil pressure. I rotated the MSD distributer 180 and no difference.
I put a fuel pressure gauge on the fuel rail and I'm not getting any pressure. The gauge is new so I hope it works. I put a new adj. regulator on, it should work right out of the box to at least get started, right? The fuel pump is sort of new and worked before the swap. It comes on with the key like it should. Also I can hear a sound like leaking air at or near the conection of the fuel rail and line with the key on. The only other thing I changed before the start-up was change the fuel filter. I'm sure I put it in the right direction but maybe I'll check, but it should still flow.
I know I need to check for spark and that the wires are in the right order, but I don't understand why no fuel psi. Anyone have any other ideas?

This is my first post here. Thanks.
 
so the pump primes, from the sound of it. what happens if you cycle the key a couple times w/o trying to start it - does pressure build?

you can also use the test connector to run the pump for testing.

Jrichker has a really nice post about FP issues and what all one can do. nothing glaring is shooting out at me though.

good luck.
 
I had the fuel rail lift because it was not bolted down during my install..no pressure and dumped fuel in behind the enigne and down onto to floor..just an idea. Check the fuse under the seat to make sure its connected properly..
 
DMAN302 said:
also I've heard there is a cut off for the fuel in the hatch/trunk area..could be wrong though.
i wondered about that too, but he said it primes. if it primes, the inertia switch is conducting, allowing the hot-side coil of the FP relay to energize and the pump to prime.

im not pointing this out to be a jerk (as you can see, i was unsure in my post to him) - i wanted to confirm this with a little info on how the circuit works to see if that rang a bell. :)
 
Cranks OK, but No Start Checklist for Fuel Injected Mustangs

1.) Remove push on connector from starter solenoid and turn ignition switch on. Place car in neutral or Park. Remove coil wire from distributor & and hold 3/8” away from engine block. Jumper the screw to the big bolt on the starter solenoid that has the battery wire connected to it. You should get a nice fat blue spark.
Most of the items are electrical in nature, so a test light, or even better, a voltmeter, is helpful to be sure they have power to them.
No spark, possible failed items in order of their probability:
A.) MSD or Crane ignition box if so equipped
B.)Coil
C.) TFI module
D.) PIP sensor in distributor
E.) ECC relay next to computer - look for 12 volts at the fuel injector red wires
F.) Fuse links in wiring harness - look for 12 volts at the fuel injector red wires
G.) Ignition switch - look for 12 volts at the ignition coil red/lt green wire.
H.) Computer

2.) Spark at coil wire, pull #1 plug wire off at the spark plug and check to see spark. No spark, possible failed items in order of their probability:
A.) Moisture inside distributor – remove cap, dry off & spray with WD40
B.) Distributor cap
C.) Rotor
D.) Spark Plug wires
E.) Coil weak or intermittent - you should see 3/8" fat blue spark with a good coil

3.) Spark at spark plug, but no start.
Next, get a can of starting fluid (ether) from your local auto parts store: costs a $1.30 or so. Then pull the air duct off at the throttle body elbow, open the throttle, and spray the ether in it. Reconnect the air duct and try to start the car. Do not try to start the car without reconnecting the air duct.
Two reasons:
1.) If it backfires, the chance for a serious fire is increased.
2.) On Mass Air cars, the computer needs to measure the MAF flow once the engine starts.
If it starts then, you have a fuel management issue. Continue the checklist with emphasis of fuel related items that follow. If it doesn’t, then it is a computer or timing issue: see Step 4.

Clue – listen for the fuel pump to prime when you first turn the ignition switch on. It should run for 5-20 seconds and shut off. To trick the fuel pump into running, find the ECC test connector and jump the connector in the lower RH corner to ground. See http://www.mustangworks.com/article...c-iv_codes.html for a description of the test connector. If the relay & inertia switch are OK, you will have power to the pump. Check fuel pressure – remove the cap from the schrader valve behind the alternator and depress the core. Fuel should squirt out, catch it in a rag. Beware of fire hazard when you do this. In pinch you can use a tire pressure gauge to measure the fuel pressure. It may not be completely accurate, but you will have some clue as to how much pressure you have.

No fuel pressure, possible failed items in order of their probability:
A.) Tripped inertia switch – Coupe & hatch cars hide it under the plastic trim covering the driver's side taillight. Use the voltmeter or test light to make sure you have power to both sides of the switch
B.) Fuel pump power relay – located under the driver’s seat in most stangs built before 92. On 92 and later model cars it is located below the Mass Air Flow meter. Look for 12 volts at the Pink/Black wire on the fuel pump relay.
C.) Clogged fuel filter
D.) Failed fuel pump
E.) Blown fuse link in wiring harness. Look for 12 volts at the Orange/Lt Blue wire on the fuel pump relay
F.) Fuel pressure regulator failed. Remove vacuum line from regulator and inspect for fuel escaping while pump is running.

Fuel pressure OK, the injectors are not firing.

A.) A Noid light available from Autozone, is one way to test the injector wiring.
B.) I like to use an old injector with compressed air applied to the injector where the fuel rail would normally connect. I hook the whole thing up, apply compressed air to the injector and stick it in a paper cup of soapy water. When the engine cranks with the ignition switch on, if the injector fires, it makes bubbles. Cheap if you have the stuff laying around, and works good too.

a.) Pull an injector wire connector off and look for 12 volts on the red wire when the ignition switch is on.
b.) No power, then look for problems with the 10 pin connecter (salt & pepper shakers at the rear of the upper manifold).
c.) No power and the 10 pin connections are good: look for broken wiring between the orange/black wire on the ECC relay and the red wire for the 10 pin connectors.


4.) Spark & fuel pressure OK.

A.) Failed IAB (no airflow to start engine). Press the throttle ¼ way down and try to start the car.
B.) Failed computer (not very likely)
C.) Engine ignition or cam timing off: only likely if the engine has been worked on recently).
D.) Firing order off: HO & 351 use a different firing order from the non HO engines.
HO & 351W 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
Non HO 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8
 
Thanks for all the ideas. I only get one day a week(two if I'm lucky) to work on this car because of work and other stuff so its killing me thinking about all the stuff I need to check when I can get back to this project.
The car ran OK before I swaped engines. I did this because I thought the original engine had too many miles to be worth modifing. The fuel pump worked then and I don't see why it wouldn't now. Its only about two years old(125gph Holley). This is the first F.I. car I've done anything like this to. Carb cars have a few less variables to wory about.
The leaking air sound seems to be coming from the fuel rail to line connection (front pass. side). But since it is right above the #3 injector its hard to isolate where its coming from exactly. The injectors are brand new 24lb Bosch.
Assuming the psi guage works, it seems to me I should get psi to it and a leak after it. But no fuel comes out, just a little air and noise. I'm sure the new Fram fuel filter I put on before I tried to start-up was put in with the arrow pointed in the right direction, that will be the first thing I check when I get back to working on this car. I don't think the filter would block the fuel flow simply because its backwards, just restrict it, right?
I'll post again when I get back on this thing. Thanks for all the ideas, more are always welcome. Thanks again. :hail2: