New Fast and Furious

[1990Coupe]

However, I HAVE encountered countless imports with hideous paintjob colors, tacky vinyl graphics galore, fart can mufflers, every accessory listed in an APC catalog, and drivers who call everyone "dawg," worship "NAWWWWSSS" like it's some divine entity, wear those golf visors upside-down and backwards (or sideways), and have wet dreams about "living life a quarter mile at a time" just like Vin Diesel.

Sci-fi and ricer movies aren't even vaguely in the same genre, so you're throwing out a totally bizarre comparison. It's kind of like saying "House" is a more realistic TV show than "Dora the Explorer."

I could go on and on about the countless things that are absurd, ridiculous, cheesy, annoying, and downright perplexing about the F&F movies, but essentially the series is an idiotic fad, plain and simple. I hope to God they get overexposed to a point where everyone finally gets tired of it and it fades into obscurity ... but, alas, as long as people keep paying money to see this garbage (even if only for a laugh), they're just going to keep churning them out.

BTW, hopping into the middle of a thread and saying "I didn't read any of the prior posts," and then proceeding to tell all the naysayers they're wrong because you picked up on a few keywords ... don't you think that comes off as sounding a little bit self-righteous and closed-minded? "I don't care what y'all have to say, here's my opinion, I'm right and you're wrong, so nyahhhh."

Its funny, you aren't the only one, but others in this thread have constantly made the Vin Diesel reference.. The dude is playing a character, he's an actor, and people don't like him because they think that the character in the movie is how Vin really is.

Also i don't know about where you live, but we do have the typical imports, but the days of the giant body kits and stickers are definitely fading. I live around Seaside, and thats all you used to see. That fad is fading as well, and FAST. Also the NAWZZ comment is a cliche... Nobody in most most all areas of NJ worship NAWZZZ like they used to back with the first one came out.

And you're damn right they will keep churning them out.. When your budget is 80 mil, and you make 100 mil in the first week and a half, its stupid to stop production. This one was good, no reason to end the story now (if you saw it) I have an open mind and can watch these movies and see them for the true entertainment they are.. Some of you people are way to close minded and need to open up and crawl out from under the rocks of the the first movie..

 

[NIKwoaC]

I haven not read all these long posts, but I caught the words "far fetched" and "computer generated" and other negative remarks.

So those who have knocked Fast and Furious......do you guys like Star Wars, Transformers, X-men, and all of those lame-ass, fake-ass movies? Are there any parts in those action movies that are real?

Did you just call Star Wars "lame-ass"?

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[90lxcoupe]

Did you just call Star Wars "lame-ass"?

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if he didnt i will


:fairyfight: = star wars vs. star trek fight

 

[Darkwriter77]

I hope they produce multitudes more and you sir can be a direct replacement for the overly pompous Ebert when he is gone. What do you do for entertainment? Discovery channel?

Overly pompous? Yeah, okay. My highly discriminating tastes forbid me from seeing even such a high quality flick as "Fast & Furious." I think I'll go listen to some Mozart while driving to the next stage production of "The King and I" in my Jaguar. Oh, by the way ... do you have any Grey Poupon?

You don't have to be "overly pompous" to realize what a stinking turd this movie is. You know why I don't watch every Steven Segal, Van Damme, and/or Dolph Lundgren action flick that comes out on DVD? Because I know without even watching it that those movies are complete and absolute stinking turds cashing in on the past reputations of those actors. Oh sure, there might be a lucky jewel now and then to possibly resurrect their career,

Its funny, you aren't the only one, but others in this thread have constantly made the Vin Diesel reference.. The dude is playing a character, he's an actor, and people don't like him because they think that the character in the movie is how Vin really is.

Also i don't know about where you live, but we do have the typical imports, but the days of the giant body kits and stickers are definitely fading. I live around Seaside, and thats all you used to see. That fad is fading as well, and FAST. Also the NAWZZ comment is a cliche... Nobody in most most all areas of NJ worship NAWZZZ like they used to back with the first one came out.

And you're damn right they will keep churning them out.. When your budget is 80 mil, and you make 100 mil in the first week and a half, its stupid to stop production. This one was good, no reason to end the story now (if you saw it) I have an open mind and can watch these movies and see them for the true entertainment they are.. Some of you people are way to close minded and need to open up and crawl out from under the rocks of the the first movie..

Just because something makes a ton of money doesn't mean it's a great movie. The original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II movie back in the day raked in TONS of money, but it was absolutely horrible - bad acting, bad screenwriting, bad special effects, bad ... EVERYTHING! But people paid money to see it, regardless. All they did with this new F&F movie was take the same rehashed concept from the first movie, along with a lot of the same actors, and just stuck them in mostly domestic cars - it's still a crappy story, still a bunch of crappy actors, and the stunts and effects are still laughable.

FWIW, I have had the unfortunate pleasure of seeing the second F&F, as well, and I hated that as much as (if not more so) than the first, which is why I have refused to watch the third and fourth. The ONLY significant change the fourth movie has made in the series is "Look, everyone! We brought back the original actors and used mostly domestic cars this time!" Otherwise ... different turd, same smell. I don't need to keep putting my hand on the hot stove over and over again to realize that it burns. As wise man once said, "The definition of insanity is to do exactly the same thing over and over again while expecting completely different results."

And Vin Diesel acts exactly the same in every single movie he's in - how else do you think he got the lead role in that travesty of a flick called "The Pacifier?" "The Chronicles of Riddick," "A Man Apart," "XXX" ... seen 'em all, and in none of those movies did the dude impress me as having any kind of range of acting flexibility. He plays exactly the same guy in every single movie he's in. He's typecast as a Hollywood tough guy, a-la Stallone or Schwarzenegger, and his acting skills consist of him giving pissed-off, scrunchy-faced glares and talking trash to people in movies - woooooo, I'm gonna pay $20 to see another 2 hours of that! The others in the movie are even less entertaining. The only way you could get me to see this turd of a flick in the theaters is if there was the promise of a hardcore sex scene between Michelle Rodriguez and Jordana Brewster - now THAT would be entertaining!

You wanna see Vin Diesel actually doing something totally different? Check this out:
YouTube - Vin Diesel

if he didnt i will


:fairyfight: = star wars vs. star trek fight

Star Wars > Star Trek simply because the chicks in the Star Wars series were always hotter. Carrie Fisher in that slave chick metal bikini thing was always WAY hotter than Uhura in a clingy red uniform skirt.

 

[fiveohwblow]

Overly pompous? Yeah, okay. My highly discriminating tastes forbid me from seeing even such a high quality flick as "Fast & Furious." I think I'll go listen to some Mozart while driving to the next stage production of "The King and I" in my Jaguar. Oh, by the way ... do you have any Grey Poupon?

You don't have to be "overly pompous" to realize what a stinking turd this movie is. You know why I don't watch every Steven Segal, Van Damme, and/or Dolph Lundgren action flick that comes out on DVD? Because I know without even watching it that those movies are complete and absolute stinking turds cashing in on the past reputations of those actors. Oh sure, there might be a lucky jewel now and then to possibly resurrect their career,



Just because something makes a ton of money doesn't mean it's a great movie. The original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II movie back in the day raked in TONS of money, but it was absolutely horrible - bad acting, bad screenwriting, bad special effects, bad ... EVERYTHING! But people paid money to see it, regardless. All they did with this new F&F movie was take the same rehashed concept from the first movie, along with a lot of the same actors, and just stuck them in mostly domestic cars - it's still a crappy story, still a bunch of crappy actors, and the stunts and effects are still laughable.

FWIW, I have had the unfortunate pleasure of seeing the second F&F, as well, and I hated that as much as (if not more so) than the first, which is why I have refused to watch the third and fourth. The ONLY significant change the fourth movie has made in the series is "Look, everyone! We brought back the original actors and used mostly domestic cars this time!" Otherwise ... different turd, same smell. I don't need to keep putting my hand on the hot stove over and over again to realize that it burns. As wise man once said, "The definition of insanity is to do exactly the same thing over and over again while expecting completely different results."

And Vin Diesel acts exactly the same in every single movie he's in - how else do you think he got the lead role in that travesty of a flick called "The Pacifier?" "The Chronicles of Riddick," "A Man Apart," "XXX" ... seen 'em all, and in none of those movies did the dude impress me as having any kind of range of acting flexibility. He plays exactly the same guy in every single movie he's in. He's typecast as a Hollywood tough guy, a-la Stallone or Schwarzenegger, and his acting skills consist of him giving pissed-off, scrunchy-faced glares and talking trash to people in movies - woooooo, I'm gonna pay $20 to see another 2 hours of that! The others in the movie are even less entertaining. The only way you could get me to see this turd of a flick in the theaters is if there was the promise of a hardcore sex scene between Michelle Rodriguez and Jordana Brewster - now THAT would be entertaining!

You wanna see Vin Diesel actually doing something totally different? Check this out:
YouTube - Vin Diesel



Star Wars > Star Trek simply because the chicks in the Star Wars series were always hotter. Carrie Fisher in that slave chick metal bikini thing was always WAY hotter than Uhura in a clingy red uniform skirt.

Ebert is who I was referring to as overly pompous, not you but I'd gladly let you take his place and title if you continue to critique movies without A having seen them or B having the ability to view it for what it is.

Pompous
–adjective
1. characterized by an ostentatious display of dignity or importance

Only those who find their opinions better than experience will make such statements. Your opinion is better than our experiences I see

My other concern is with your quote, ""The definition of insanity is to do exactly the same thing over and over again while expecting completely different results." "

Shortly thereafter you state, "And Vin Diesel acts exactly the same in every single movie he's in - how else do you think he got the lead role in that travesty of a flick called "The Pacifier?" "The Chronicles of Riddick," "A Man Apart," "XXX" ... seen 'em all"
Were you watching each and expecting a different outcome?

 

[NIKwoaC]

Star Wars > Star Trek because it has everything Trek has plus magic powers. Its every nerd's fantasy. I am excited to see that new Trek movie, it looks badass.

 

[fiveohwblow]

Star Wars > Star Trek because it has everything Trek has plus magic powers. Its every nerd's fantasy. I am excited to see that new Trek movie, it looks badass.

+1

 

[SVT32VDOHC]

Sci-fi and ricer movies aren't even vaguely in the same genre, so you're throwing out a totally bizarre comparison. It's kind of like saying "House" is a more realistic TV show than "Dora the Explorer."


BTW, hopping into the middle of a thread and saying "I didn't read any of the prior posts," and then proceeding to tell all the naysayers they're wrong because you picked up on a few keywords ... don't you think that comes off as sounding a little bit self-righteous and closed-minded? "I don't care what y'all have to say, here's my opinion, I'm right and you're wrong, so nyahhhh."

1. Bizarre comparison...not at all. I caught the word "computer generated". Both are computer generated. What's closer to being realistic. People with wrikled foreheads and pointy ears?....or a couple guys racing cars?

Did you just call Star Wars "lame-ass"?

Indeed I did.


Overall, I just find it funny how people feel the need to bash F&F movies all over. Why? Are we not all car people? Can we not just sit down and watch an entertaining film? I don't see anybody bashing new Transformer movies and X-men movies and the like.

 

[fiveohwblow]

1. Bizarre comparison...not at all. I caught the word "computer generated". Both are computer generated. What's closer to being realistic. People with wrikled foreheads and pointy ears?....or a couple guys racing cars?



Indeed I did.


Overall, I just find it funny how people feel the need to bash F&F movies all over. Why? Are we not all car people? Can we not just sit down and watch an entertaining film? I don't see anybody bashing new Transformer movies and X-men movies and the like.

 

[FrankenStang]

This thread sucks. There's my opinion.

 

[JH96GT]

This thread sucks. There's my opinion.

+1. Kinda hard to polish a turd.

 

[NIKwoaC]

+1. Kinda hard to polish a turd.

MythBusters did it.

 

[Darkwriter77]

Ebert is who I was referring to as overly pompous, not you but I'd gladly let you take his place and title if you continue to critique movies without A having seen them or B having the ability to view it for what it is.

Pompous
–adjective
1. characterized by an ostentatious display of dignity or importance

Only those who find their opinions better than experience will make such statements. Your opinion is better than our experiences I see

My other concern is with your quote, ""The definition of insanity is to do exactly the same thing over and over again while expecting completely different results." "

Shortly thereafter you state, "And Vin Diesel acts exactly the same in every single movie he's in - how else do you think he got the lead role in that travesty of a flick called "The Pacifier?" "The Chronicles of Riddick," "A Man Apart," "XXX" ... seen 'em all"
Were you watching each and expecting a different outcome?

At what point did I indicate myself as being important or having an ostentious level of dignity? The film is crap. You wanna buy me a ticket or buy and send me the DVD so I can sit through two hours of it just so I can say I saw it? Fine, be my guest.

The sad thing about it is that a movie's trailer is supposed to make the movie look awesome and appealing, sometimes even more so than the film actually is, but this new F&F film fails even in that part. It looks every bit as cheesy and idiotic as the prior films - all flash, no substance, all eye candy and no acting or plot. I've had enough experience by suffering through the first two movies to know that 3 and 4 are just as horrible, because there's clearly no change in the formula. THEY ADDED DOMESTIC CARS AND ACTORS FROM THE FIRST MOVIE - WHOOPTIE FREAKIN' DOO!

Again, if you wanna supply the tickets or DVD, send 'em on over, but I'm not gonna plunk down $20 to sit through something that clearly is going to suck. Do I really need to actually watch the "Bratz" movie(s) to know that they suck, too? Or how about the next horribly unfunny spoof film put out by the dudes that made "Epic Movie?" The "Hannah Monatana" movie, perhaps? C'mon ... you don't always have to actually take a bite out of a turd sammich to know that it's made of poo, y'know.

As far as Vin and seeing most of his movies (and my insanity ... which I won't necessarily deny ), those were movies of totally different genres and totally different series ... and he STILL acts exactly the same in each film. Watching the same dude in the same series, however, and expecting him to get better is a lost cause, but I thought I'd give the guy the benefit of the doubt and hope that he was just being cast in bad films ... and I was sadly mistaken. I want 10+ hours of my life back, Mr. Diesel.

1. Bizarre comparison...not at all. I caught the word "computer generated". Both are computer generated. What's closer to being realistic. People with wrikled foreheads and pointy ears?....or a couple guys racing cars?

I found ya' a wrinkled forehead and some pointy ears ... and look! It's nonfiction, even!

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Indeed I did.


Overall, I just find it funny how people feel the need to bash F&F movies all over. Why? Are we not all car people? Can we not just sit down and watch an entertaining film? I don't see anybody bashing new Transformer movies and X-men movies and the like.

That's because those movies are actually entertaining - good story, good acting, and stuff that doesn't try to pass itself off as being believable. Also, those are movies of a totally different genre - science fiction, specifically - so again, you're comparing apples to oranges.

+1. Kinda hard to polish a turd.

Kinda hard, yes, but it CAN be done. It's an art form. Again, see my sig.

 

[1990Coupe]

Until you have seen this movie, you have no real cause in saying the movie has no plot, and crappy acting...


PERIOD.

Infact all your opinions on this movie are basically BS until you've actually seen it...


PERIOD..

 

[SVT32VDOHC]

I found ya' a wrinkled forehead and some pointy ears ... and look! It's nonfiction, even!



That's because those movies are actually entertaining - good story, good acting, and stuff that doesn't try to pass itself off as being believable. Also, those are movies of a totally different genre - science fiction, specifically - so again, you're comparing apples to oranges.

Funny pic of the bush wacker.

So.......Mr. Arizona.........A car that transforms into a robot taller than the Empire State Building and can walk/step over bridges like I can step on bugs can be passed off as being believeable??.....really? What kind of Absinthe are you drinking? A tiny middle aged man can pop some razors out of his hands at any given time can be passed off as being believable too?

Until you have seen this movie, you have no real cause in saying the movie has no plot, and crappy acting...

PERIOD.

Infact all your opinions on this movie are basically BS until you've actually seen it...

PERIOD..

At least one person I know likes the movies. The 4th movie has the best acting of all the movies. As far as the story, I'm not sure. I like the stories out of 1,2,4 all about the same. It's a series that has built upon itself. I like all these movies and could pop in any of the 3 and watch them straight through many times over.

 

[FrankenStang]

Stop the bickering or

 

[QUICK91LX]

This is the most retarted argument ever.

The movie was entertaining as hell...the acting sucked, the plot was sketchy and there were all kinds of wacked out things that could necer happen in real life, but it was action-packed, reasonably humorous, had cool cars in it and held my interest and then some for the duration. Thats all it needed to do, and I enjoyed the experience.

I am not sure why it matters so much to so many people in here. ITS A FRIGGIN MOVIE! MOVIES ARE FAKE AND THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE! They take elements of real life and sensationalize them for entertainment purposes! Man, guys, lighten up.

 

[sj9ers]

Exactly. Some of you guys are expecting Oscar winning performances from these movies. I mean come on it's entertainment just go in sit down and have fun. Who cares if cars are popping wheelies in the dirt or doing other ridiculous things not even remotely possible in real life its a MOVIE!.

 

[Darkwriter77]

Until you have seen this movie, you have no real cause in saying the movie has no plot, and crappy acting...


PERIOD.

Infact all your opinions on this movie are basically BS until you've actually seen it...


PERIOD..

So, by that same token, your own opinion should be disregarded because you chose to jump into this thread and, by your own admission, couldn't be bothered to read others' posts before feeling the need to throw in your own $0.02 - you're posting in a thread you haven't finished reading through.

Again I ask, does one NEED to taste the turd sammich to know it's made of poo? If it looks like poo and smells like poo, and that STILL ain't enough to convince someone that it IS poo ... well, then ... bon appetite.

Funny pic of the bush wacker.

So.......Mr. Arizona.........A car that transforms into a robot taller than the Empire State Building and can walk/step over bridges like I can step on bugs can be passed off as being believeable??.....really? What kind of Absinthe are you drinking? A tiny middle aged man can pop some razors out of his hands at any given time can be passed off as being believable too?



At least one person I know likes the movies. The 4th movie has the best acting of all the movies. As far as the story, I'm not sure. I like the stories out of 1,2,4 all about the same. It's a series that has built upon itself. I like all these movies and could pop in any of the 3 and watch them straight through many times over.

Did you actually READ my post at all, or did you just keyword-search it, too, before clicking "Reply?" Dude ... let me spell it out for you:

Robots = science fiction topic
Mutants = science fiction topic
Yoda and Darth Vader and Wookies and Ewoks and all that = science fiction topics
street racing = HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE.

The very PREMISE of the F&F movies is based on something that happens in reality, whereas most sci-fi movies start off right from the get-go with some variation on "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" or something. The division between reality and fantasy is quite clear; the F&F films, however, take a real-life concept and then build upon it with outrageous BS car stunts, crappy acting, and a terribly weak and uninteresting plot. It's a series that tries to pass itself off as legit, but it's so over-the-top while still trying to come off as a serious film or series of films that it's like a really bad joke. If they'd titled it something like "The Fast & The Far-Fetched" and put a few famous comedians in the lead roles, the series' overall absurdity might actually hold some entertainment value because then it'd be a hoot to watch.

What strikes me as baffling is that a lot of these same people on here touting the new F&F film as the next greatest-ever car flick are the same ones who panned the first "CRANK" movie because it was so over-the-top and because the ending was so outlandish. Apparently, nobody caught on to the fact that the very premise of that movie right from the start was pretty fantastic because there is no such poison of the nature that kills a person in the manner descibed, much less one that can be staved off by chugging energy drinks, banging your girlfriend in public, zapping yourself with crash-cart paddles, and/or injecting epi' straight into your own heart. The movie is a pure action flick, a-la "Shoot 'Em Up" or the "Transporter" movies, and it's presented as such - a clear departure from reality, a total fantasy, whereas the F&F movies come off like one big, long elaborate commercial for NOS, Honda, Mitsubishi, Honda, and other automobile and auto parts manufacturers ... as if all the product tie-ins and endorsements in real life don't make that painfully obvious, already.

And to top it all off, the movies take themselves entirely too seriously. It'd be one thing if all this nonsense was kind of tongue-in-cheek, like the writers/producers could at least acknowledge, "Okay, yeah, even we think this crap is pretty far-fetched," and kind of throw in a little self-depricating humor about the story, itself, or the characters, but these actors throw out idiotic one-liners and stuff with the belief that they're coining the next "Yippie-ki-yayy mofugga" generational catchphrase, or that the wheelie-in-the-dirt or wheelie-while-peeling-out-on-street-tires kind of crap is somehow on par with, say, the "hit the brakes and he'll fly right by" trick in "Top Gun." It's not cool or amusing; it's frickin' corny as hell, and insulting to the audience's intelligence.

And what's with the "Mr. Arizona" comment, anyway? Did I win some kind of competition I didn't know about to earn that title? Or is that supposed to be some kind of bizarre form of an insult? Please do explain. And while you're at it, why the need to make this seem so personal, anyway? It's just a friggin' movie.

Look, this debate could go on forever. The OP asked for opinions on the movie, opinions were given, and (OMG! ) not everyone had the same opinion. So, let's just agree to disagree on this one and move on with life, shall we?

 

[QUICK91LX]

Which movies (especially car-related flicks) receive the Darkwriter77 seal of approval, and what aspects and characteristics of these movies do you like best?