new hyundai genesis coupe

they build the sante fe and sonata here in montgomery. Been on a tour of the plant twice when i was in high school. the quality of these cars has improved lightyears. Hell the genesis won car of the year so that tells you something right there

04DarkShadowGT said:

Go check out the newer cars Ford and GM have out, they are every bit as nice and well built as any Toyota or Honda. The big 3 have to overcome the reputation they built for themeslves, even now that they are building at least equal cars.

New F150 and Silverado - best trucks on the market

Fusion and Malibu are as nice as the camry or accord.

Ford has the 3rd best selling hybrid in the Escape and the only SUV that gets over 30 city and highway.

The new Taurus displayed at the auto show as incredible and imo is the best looking full size sedan on the market for the $$.


Imo the only place the domestics fail miserably is on comapct trucks and small cars. Ford needs to put the focus on the Mazda 3 platform or just bring over the euro version. The Cobalt is crappy.

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Actually, Ford has surpassed Toyota and Honda in quality in a few segments.

The new Fusion is killing the Camry in mileage as well.

The small car problem will be solved for the 2010 model year when we get the new Fiesta and the Focus on the Mazda/Volvo platform will follow as well.

AdRock said:

You gotta be kidding me. Do you know how many NON big three cars are built here in the states and sold here? The american auto makers just don't put out the quality that the others do for the same price right now. That's why they're in the ****ter, oh yea, that and the unions. I'd love to buy american but they just aren't up to par right now. Maybe they'll get their **** together if they don't go belly up first. At least Ford isn't begging for money like a crackhead on a street corner.

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you are a few years behind the times. Ford is #1 in quality and safety right now.

as for foreign cars being built here, you have too look at the part content of the vehicle, then take a look at where the profit is going. there is more to it than just where the car is assembled.

well here is my take on the subject. i like the new 2010 stang but if i like the genesis more i'll get it. maybe ford should offer the GT or some V6 turbo option with brembos and a torsen diff. hell, a six speed would be nice.

its all down to the fun factor, though. i want american companies to make a good product but sadly the reason why they've been making crap while others have been making strides in quality has been because we've continued to buy the cars even if they do suck.

our national pride has kept them from feeling the crunch and now they're feeling the squeeze because of it.

but thats just my theory.

I've driven one, nice cars.

Mustang5L5 said:

Yeah, if you lose your job, you can give the car back with no negative penalty + the 10-year warranty. Hard to beat that deal really.

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from what i've heard, the no negative penalty only applies for 1 year and less than $7000 of value lost.

You have to ask yourself one question, when you turn the key to whatever vehicle, does it bring a smile to your face?

Ford has already shown that hp doesn't always bring in sales cough cough Camaro.

I went from a 5L to a Spec V that ran suprisingly well for a 4 banger, but it didn't bring a smile to my face when I brought the vehicle to life. My affair lasted for five years before I went back to another Mustang...my 04 GT.

When I was younger, I had to do all sorts of mods in order to be faster than the next guy. Now that I am older, I drive a stock 04 GT slushbox. Why??

Umm let's see, most states want to impound and keep your car if you are caught in any sort of "rapid acceleration" with a car next to you.

Most of my commute is traffic, stop and go barf.

The 4.6 has proven to go 200,000.

I love the sound of Ford V8's. I think the stock mufflers with cats sound great.

I've already pretty much determined that my next car will be a 3V 08+ GT.

The ironic part is that my GT goes through the snow better than my Spec V did, both were equipped with snow tires and both have/had limited slips.

I guess I really no longer care that the annoying kid in the whatever-the-latest craze who happens to be along side me, could beat me.

4.6

Winters98GT said:

that's going to be a real tough sale right now. They make great cars, but I don't think too many people will buy this thing at that price.

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i heard they are making a 4.6L v8 for it too, it is very popular in korea all the rich kids are driving them there,