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rebel65

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Borgeson said:
I do have some more pictures of fit / clearance on a 1968 Small block with Tri-Y headers. For photo's and other details that I have in a word doc. send me a request via e-mail to: jeff @ borgeson . com (remove spaces) and I will respond as soon as practical.

Thanks, Jeff
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Power Box Application Details

1965-1966 Mustang (1” Diameter Sector Shaft)

Factory P/S Cars Require:
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
Steering Column Shaft / Floor Mount
Complete Rag Joint
65-66 V-8 M/S Center link
Manual Steering Cars Require:
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
Steering Column Shaft / Floor Mount
Complete Rag Joint
P/S Pump, Bracket and Pulley Kit

1967 Mustang (Must verify sector shaft diameter 1” or 1-1/8”)
Note: Cars with ¾” Diameter non-collapsible column shaft will require part #990040 Steering Column shaft/ floor mount and #052534 Complete Rag Joint not ½ rag joint.
Factory P/S Cars Require:
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
½ Rag Joint
Drag Link Adapter
Manual Steering Cars Require:
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
½ Rag Joint
P/S Pump, Bracket and Pulley Kit

1968-1970 Mustang (1-1/8” Diameter Sector Shaft)

Factory P/S Cars Require:
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
½ Rag Joint
Drag Link Adapter
Manual Steering Cars Require:
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
½ Rag Joint
P/S Pump, Bracket and Pulley Kit
 
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Power Conversion Box Part #'s

Mustang Conversion Part #’s
800110 – Power Steering Box, 65-67, 1” Diameter Sector Shaft
800111 – Power Steering Box, 67-70, 1-1/8” Diameter Sector Shaft
990040 – Steering Column Shaft, with Floor Mount1965-1967 (Early)
925107 – P/S Hose Kit, Ford Conversion Box to Ford Pump
925108 – P/S Hose Kit, Ford Conversion Box to Saginaw Pump Upgrade
052534 – Rag Joint, Conversion Box to Borgeson Column Shaft
990016 – ½ Rag Joint, Conversion Box to Rag Joint Flange on Stock Column
990003 – 1967-1970 Mustang Drag Link Adapter, Replaces Control Valve
990050 – 1965-1966 V-8 Manual Steering Drag Link
800330 – 1965-1970 SBF Mustang Saginaw P/S Pump Upgrade Inc: Pump, Pulley, Bracket
 

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Welcome. Glad we got everything straitened out.
 
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bnickel

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Borgeson said:
1965-1966 Mustang (1” Diameter Sector Shaft)

Factory P/S Cars Require:
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
Steering Column Shaft / Floor Mount
Complete Rag Joint
65-66 V-8 M/S Center link
Manual Steering Cars Require:
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
Steering Column Shaft / Floor Mount
Complete Rag Joint
P/S Pump, Bracket and Pulley Kit

1967 Mustang (Must verify sector shaft diameter 1” or 1-1/8”)
Note: Cars with ¾” Diameter non-collapsible column shaft will require part #990040 Steering Column shaft/ floor mount and #052534 Complete Rag Joint not ½ rag joint.
Factory P/S Cars Require:
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
½ Rag Joint
Drag Link Adapter
Manual Steering Cars Require:
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
½ Rag Joint
P/S Pump, Bracket and Pulley Kit

1968-1970 Mustang (1-1/8” Diameter Sector Shaft)

Factory P/S Cars Require:
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
½ Rag Joint
Drag Link Adapter
Manual Steering Cars Require:
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
½ Rag Joint
P/S Pump, Bracket and Pulley Kit
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will this box work on other ford vehicles that use the same steering gear? for example; ranchero, torino, falcon, fairlane, etc ?
 

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What pitman arm does this piece use?
 
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CraigMBA said:
What pitman arm does this piece use?
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the stock one, i'm assuming the stock one for power steering equipped cars, since it's a 16:1 ratio box, if you were to use the manual steering pitman i would think it throw off the ratio, at least at the steering wheel anyway.
 
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Is there any possibility of offering a discounted group buy to stangnet members?
 
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bnickel said:
will this box work on other ford vehicles that use the same steering gear? for example; ranchero, torino, falcon, fairlane, etc ?
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Thats up next, now that we have it in production for the Mustangs/Cougars we have started research to bring it to market for the other Fords / Mercs.

Thanks, Jeff
 
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CraigMBA said:
What pitman arm does this piece use?
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It will fit with any stock 1" or 1-1/8" Pitman arm. (We offer the box in both sizes) The lenght of the Pitman arm will however still effect overall steering speed. The box is a 16:1 ratio with 4 turns of the Input shaft lock to lock, a longer Pitman arm will speed that up at the wheels.

Thanks, Jeff
 
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TT670 said:
Is there any possibility of offering a discounted group buy to stangnet members?
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Thats a tough one, we are a true manufacturer with an exisitng distribution network. We do sell all of our products direct however at full retail price to insure that our dealers an distributors can maintain the ability to make money on our products.
 
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An idea on pricing

And idea on pricing for complete kits below. The most affordable R&P conversion that is complete is $1,599 and again our box retains a stock look, simplified steering linkage (to the column), full turning radius and full ground clearance.

Borgeson said:
1965-1966 Mustang (1” Diameter Sector Shaft)

Factory P/S Cars Require: $899
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
Steering Column Shaft / Floor Mount
Complete Rag Joint
65-66 V-8 M/S Center link
Manual Steering Cars Require: $1084
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
Steering Column Shaft / Floor Mount
Complete Rag Joint
P/S Pump, Bracket and Pulley Kit

1967 Mustang (Must verify sector shaft diameter 1” or 1-1/8”)
Note: Cars with ¾” Diameter non-collapsible column shaft will require part #990040 Steering Column shaft/ floor mount and #052534 Complete Rag Joint not ½ rag joint.
Factory P/S Cars Require: $860
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
½ Rag Joint
Drag Link Adapter
Manual Steering Cars Require: $996
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
½ Rag Joint
P/S Pump, Bracket and Pulley Kit

1968-1970 Mustang (1-1/8” Diameter Sector Shaft)

Factory P/S Cars Require: $860
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
½ Rag Joint
Drag Link Adapter
Manual Steering Cars Require: $996
Power Steering Box
Power Steering Hose Kit
½ Rag Joint
P/S Pump, Bracket and Pulley Kit
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Borgeson said:
And idea on pricing for complete kits below. The most affordable R&P conversion that is complete is $1,599 and again our box retains a stock look, simplified steering linkage (to the column), full turning radius and full ground clearance.
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i might actually sell my TCP rack and use one of these or maybe i'll just put it on my other car
 
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Refund for original box.

Included with conversion box is a form to obtain a $65.00 refund if you send us your original manual steering box. Even with the cost to ship us the box this is another quick $50 of the cost of the conversion.
 
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pump question using 5.0 serpentine

I've got an '89 5.0 engine in my '66 with the serpentine setup. Would I have to adapt your pump or would the 89 model pump work?
 
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jmf-66 said:
I've got an '89 5.0 engine in my '66 with the serpentine setup. Would I have to adapt your pump or would the 89 model pump work?
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Your 1989 5.0 pump should operate our conversion box just fine. I would need to know the high pressure fitting size on your pump to get you the proper hose kit.
 
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Dealers / Distributors

All part #'s for Mustang conversion are now good with Summit, Jegs, Motorstate, and Keystone. We are busy getting more on board as fast as we can.

Thanks,
 
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Borgeson said:
It has a nasty habit of removing the P/S hoses from the top of the box. The box itself clears but we cannot source any P/S fittings with a low enough profile to clear the hoses.
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Even the Banjo fittings like sold by Pure Choice Motorsports are too tall?
 
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Mpcoluv said:
Even the Banjo fittings like sold by Pure Choice Motorsports are too tall?
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Yes unfortunatley, we tried the banjo fittings and there is just no room to clear the Z-Bar.

Thanks, Jeff
 
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Do you have any photos of the Z-bar hitting the box/hose fittings?
 
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