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bnickel

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ps930 said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969...DAPTER-69_W0QQitemZ130328087399QQcmdZViewItem

Okay I guess i need something like this item above.
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yes, that's what you need
 
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ps930 said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969...DAPTER-69_W0QQitemZ130328087399QQcmdZViewItem

Okay I guess i need something like this item above.
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We have it. I sent you an e-mail. The 351W adapter is $14.00

Thanks, Jeff
 
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has anyone tried clearing this box with the later style z-bar? it was the HP replacment piece offered by ford (really the 69 boss 302 unit) and has a larger arc curve. I have one in my 67 and it offers much more rrom than the original?

what about routing the hoses back towards the firewal and then up?
 
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Has anyone else tried this box?
 
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do we have anyone using this box on the road yet?

what is the feel like slow and at highway speeds?

i am looking for feedback on the power box.

Thanks
 
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Looks like a good system, but what does it feel like on the road? Has anyone finished an install and put some time behind the wheel?
 

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Colapsing Column

For my 1969, what is involved in colapsing the steering column 2 inches? Are there any irreversable changes that need to be made to the column?

Will it fit (and the pump)fit a big block as well?
 
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RGS0907 said:
For my 1969, what is involved in colapsing the steering column 2 inches? Are there any irreversable changes that need to be made to the column?

Will it fit (and the pump)fit a big block as well?
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To collapse the column, at the most you will be breaking a small plastic shear pin inside the column. (most of these we are finding have let go already). Our Saginaw pump kit is intended for use in the 65-69 SBF, 70 SBF, and 69-70 351W

Thanks,
 
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You may also need to trim a small portion of the steering tube at the bottom.
 
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Jeff, have you installed this box on a 68 with factory tilt/swingaway steering column? They use a rag joint with a splined end on each side.
My car has factory p/s, I will be replacing all the steering components as the car is getting a "better than new" rebuild/restomod. Could I use manual steering pieces throughout the linkage system to eliminate the drag link adapter, or would I be better off using new p/s pieces. Thanks.
David.
 
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Blue Oval Man said:
Jeff, have you installed this box on a 68 with factory tilt/swingaway steering column? They use a rag joint with a splined end on each side.
My car has factory p/s, I will be replacing all the steering components as the car is getting a "better than new" rebuild/restomod. Could I use manual steering pieces throughout the linkage system to eliminate the drag link adapter, or would I be better off using new p/s pieces. Thanks.
David.
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I can not verify this for you. We do not have access to one to try. I would GUESS that the splined shaft would be 3/4"-36 spline. This is a very common spline for Ford. If that is the case order #052534 rag joint instead of #990016 half rag joint and you will be all set.
 
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NEW PRODUCT AVAILABLE

Now available Saginaw P/S pump upgrade for Ford 200/250 inline 6 Cylinder motor. Includes Saginaw pump, bracket and pulley. Part #800334 $295.00
Pictures when I have it.
 
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Blue Oval Man said:
Jeff, have you installed this box on a 68 with factory tilt/swingaway steering column? They use a rag joint with a splined end on each side.
My car has factory p/s, I will be replacing all the steering components as the car is getting a "better than new" rebuild/restomod. Could I use manual steering pieces throughout the linkage system to eliminate the drag link adapter, or would I be better off using new p/s pieces. Thanks.
David.
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Jeff, a quick correction to the above question. The 68 tilt/swingaway does NOT in fact have the splines on each side of the rag joint. The column tube has a smaller D shape section on the bottom to which a 1/2 rag joint is bolted too. With this being the case I should be able to just bolt the two together using my existing rag joint, unless the splines have a different size/count.
The confusion on my part came from the fact I am also working on my 79 Ford F100 which has splines on the bottom of the steering column tube. To many projects going on at once I guess.
David.
 
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I am very much interested in going with this system after researching racks and discovering the negatives that go along with them.

I have a 66 with power steering now.

Since the drag link needs to be replaced with a manual drag link and all 4 of my tie rods are shot, I should be able to purchase and use manual steering tie rods (correct) rather than the more expensive power steering style tie rods?

Sparx
 
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New Complete Conversion Kits

Complete power conversion kits now available Borgeson Universal Company :: 1965-04 Mustang :: 1965-1970 Mustang Complete Power Conversion Kits
 
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Does your kit include the drag link, hope not got one already.
sparx
 
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Borgeson said:
Complete power conversion kits now available Borgeson Universal Company :: 1965-04 Mustang :: 1965-1970 Mustang Complete Power Conversion Kits
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UPDATE:

March 2010 Mustang Monthly Magazine has a Tech write up featuring our new conversion box. "On-The-Road" feedback is slowly trickling in. All customers thus far are pleased with the road feel / response of the new box. Feedback is a little slow hitting the forums but is now starting to.
 
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Install Article

Borgeson said:
UPDATE:

March 2010 Mustang Monthly Magazine has a Tech write up featuring our new conversion box. "On-The-Road" feedback is slowly trickling in. All customers thus far are pleased with the road feel / response of the new box. Feedback is a little slow hitting the forums but is now starting to.
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Here is a link to the Borgeson Install Article In Mustang Monthly
 

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Few questions if your still around....

1. Looks like you said you can use any pitman arm? I have a powersteering box now so that pitman will be ok to use? Checking because the article I read said use manual steering pitman and idler arm.

2. $50 credit... only on manual steeing boxes?

3. Is there a hose you could supply that fits the 90 mustang power steering pump?

Thanks!
 
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Jeffrostang said:
Few questions if your still around....

1. Looks like you said you can use any pitman arm? I have a powersteering box now so that pitman will be ok to use? Checking because the article I read said use manual steering pitman and idler arm.

2. $50 credit... only on manual steeing boxes?

3. Is there a hose you could supply that fits the 90 mustang power steering pump?

Thanks!
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Our box is available in a 1" and 1-1/8" sector shaft size to fit any available Mustang pitman arm.

The credit is actually $65.00 for 1 original Mustang box.

We can supply you with 925121 hose adapters that convert the metric flare to a -6an so you can easily have a set of hoses made for any pump application.

Thanks, Jeff
 
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