New Patriot heads?

theautomatics · Dec 26, 2007

I hear Patriot makes heads now for the Ford 5.0. I'm building a 331 right now and was going to go AFR 185's with updated hardware but now I hear Patriot is making a good ford head for nearly half the cost. Anyone know about this? I wonder how it performs.

rbohm · Dec 26, 2007

there was a thread on this a few weeks ago. as i recall the heads were inconsistent in their quality, as htey were made in china. but dont quote me directly, do a search.

theautomatics · Dec 26, 2007

I've done some reading. It seems they aren't up to quality but for half the cost not bad if you don't have the money. I'll probably stay with a brodix or afr.

D.Hearne · Dec 26, 2007

And remember they have the "extra thick" .400" decks for turbo and blower applications...............................................................................................................This is always preferable over other "name brand" heads with inferior .625-.750 decks.

RMODEL65 · Dec 26, 2007

arent they just the old style afr heads or was that another company

htwheelz67 · Dec 26, 2007

they are chineese made based on the afr 185, I hear they are decent quality compared to the "procomp"heads

BullittStangV8 · Dec 26, 2007

Heard the quality sucks and the castings were inconsistent. Just word of mouth over at hardcore50.com

Cobain03 · Dec 27, 2007

i will never buy another product made by Patriot.

bnickel · Dec 27, 2007

Cobain03 said:
i will never buy another product made by Patriot.

they are not the same company that makes Patriot exhaust, just FYI.

mrmustangman357 · Dec 27, 2007

lol, does anyone find amusement that "patriot" heads are made in china?

Pbum5 · Dec 27, 2007

Yup.

At last years Monday Night Football game on 9/11 they passed out US flags to all ticket holders (70K or so) guess where the tags said they were all made. If the fans understood the irony their heads might explode.

gsxrken · Dec 27, 2007

mrmustangman357 said:
lol, does anyone find amusement that "patriot" heads are made in china?

Well, they may be Chinese patriots.
Err, comrades.
Err, abused children working in dangerously toxic factories that sh_t on our planet.
But hey, if it saves you a few dollars at Summit or Walmart.

Cobain03 · Dec 27, 2007

bnickel said:
they are not the same company that makes Patriot exhaust, just FYI.

ok your fine then lol

bnickel · Dec 27, 2007

i'm not saying i would buy them just saying they aren't the same company. personally, i'll either be using Edelbrock, Ford Racing, or AFR heads on my car. most likely the Ford Racing heads since they have exactly what i want.

mustangdave · Dec 27, 2007

Made in China: lead poisoning, reverse engineering to steal our jobs, crooked govt. practices,,,,jeez, lets all support them by purchasing another ripoff part.

htwheelz67 · Dec 27, 2007

you can buy twisted wedge heads for 995.00 at www.f-p-s.com they are the best bang for the buck. They will make more low end and mid than an afr 185, and peak power will be 8-10hp less if that.

theautomatics · Dec 28, 2007

Do I find it funny that patriot heads are cast in china? YES I do! Even though almost all heads have parts that are outsourced, the fact that they named their product patriot is insulting and insidious.

Again, I think some afr 185's with updated hardware is what I'll do. Again for the price of patriots, it puts them into a whole new category. Like "the clunker division" in racing. What's a clunker division? It doesn't exist, it's what my friend made up to compensate for his 16 second 1/4 mile track times.

mrmustangman357 · Dec 28, 2007

maybe if your class had a claimer rule

RUSTYNUT · Dec 30, 2007

I had contacted the company a few months ago. Castingings are done in china. they are machined in the U.S. The few articles if seen on heads that are made for Patriot gave good reveiws. They do have thick decks etc. They are quick and very friendly to talk to. The bad rep seems to come from factory heads they modified, that's why they started having castings made to their specs. I decided to go with a cleveland or I would have used these heads. Shoot them an e-mail before you make up your mind.
Every since the free trade agreement, you can't hardly find much that isn't made over seas. Boeing, Frieghtliner, Delta, space station, etc. Imho, I spend my money for the best bang for the buck. The arf heads are great heads, but if you aren't racing I'd rather have the 600 bucks to spend on other parts.

65ShelbyClone · Dec 30, 2007

To be honest, I might try them if I was really strapped for cash. Then again, if I was really strapped for cash, I wouldn't be building an engine. Instead of settling on iron heads, I held out an got the Performers I have now. Everything is Heli-Coiled, too; not even AFR does that.

I know it's not regarding Patriot heads, but there is a place called Rhea Performance that is going to start producing a less expensive performance 2.3 iron head(So far all others are aluminum or ported stock castings). The pictures they put up of the initial castings showed Chinese newspapers in the background. I was pretty turned off by that.

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