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94gt5.o · Feb 18, 2011

So Ive ordered the LRS short block to start my build. Keep in mind this isent going to be a crazy build but id like to get close to 300hp so this is my plan so far for an H/C/I. Ive been looking all over the place for heads so far im very interested in the edelbrock E street heads and I'm wondering if any body has ran them. 900 hundred bucks for aluminum heads and from a good company cant really find anything better. As for a cam I'm thinking an x303 from ford racing with 1.6 roller rockers for an upper and lower intake manifold i was thinking the typhoon intake manifolds with 30 pound injectors. I already have a bunch of bolt on parts such as Full exhaust,under drive pulleys,70mm throttle body AC and smog all deleted cold air intake, a couple of MSD things, and 410 gears. Now once the engine is done it will be dyno tuned I don't have a ton of money so it is a budget build if you guys see anything wrong with the build please tell me I'm open to all opinions Oh and how big should I go with the MAF. thanks guys

LRSjmac · Feb 18, 2011

Thanks for the business!

The heads are a good call, we have customers putting down about 275 to the wheels with a cobra intake & a stock cam. While I am a huge fan of FRPP, & the X303 will make you some good power, I think you'd be happier with something closer to a TFS stage 2 cam. 1.6 rockers are the way to go. Make sure to get some hardened pushrods.

The typhoon intake will be a good choice on a budget, & even has more potential with some minor cleanup & port work.

30lb injectors are way too big. 19lb will get the job done, but I normally recommend 24lb for the extra margin of safety.

A 75mm MAF would be plenty.

94gt5.o · Feb 18, 2011

Ya no problem i do a lot of business with you guys. thanks for the info I've tried to find reviews for the heads and haven't had much luck. As for the cam will it clear the pistons i did notice the the block has huge valve reliefs Oh and i forgot to mention when i ordered the block i ordered ford racing hardened push rods and new lifters

LRSjmac · Feb 18, 2011

94gt5.o said:
Ya no problem i do a lot of business with you guys. thanks for the info I've tried to find reviews for the heads and haven't had much luck. As for the cam will it clear the pistons i did notice the the block has huge valve reliefs Oh and i forgot to mention when i ordered the block i ordered ford racing hardened push rods and new lifters

Even though you should always check piston to valve clearance with any head/cam combination, we've never experienced clearance issues with this cam when used with a 1.94/1.60 valve head.

fiveohwblow · Feb 18, 2011

Arent the Trick Flow heads much less expensive now? Arent they too in the $900 price range?

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revhead347 · Feb 18, 2011

Sounds like a great build. Are you using hypereutectic pistons with this engine? Some guys are all up in arms about always upgrading to forged pistons, when the truth is, it just isn't necessary. I'm with LRS on the cam. I think that will be a great build, but the letter cam will hold you back. A Trick Flow 2 might be a little on the large side too.

I don't know anyone who has used those E-street heads yet, but I really want to know how they work out, so let us know. The E-street claim is that those heads are truly out of the box ready. Most aftermarket heads despite the high price truly are pretty crued out of the box. They usually need at least a valve job to get them up to optimum flow.

Kurt

94gt5.o · Feb 18, 2011

perfect i will still check it i just want a motor that makes good power and can be driven every day and have no problems. Any suggetions on roller rockers?

94gt5.o · Feb 18, 2011

ya i was looking at the trickflow cam and its a lil on the big side, Revhead I'm using hypereutectic pistons they are good pistons for what I'm doing. I'm ordering the heads with in the next two weeks (work bonus) cant wait to see what kind of numbers i can pull, you guys have any idea?

94gt5.o · Feb 18, 2011

fiveohwblow said:
HERE

the link dident work but ive been looking for heads for awhile and have never seen trickflow heads for under 1100.

revhead347 · Feb 18, 2011

94gt5.o said:
ya i was looking at the trickflow cam and its a lil on the big side, Revhead I'm using hypereutectic pistons they are good pistons for what I'm doing. I'm ordering the heads with in the next two weeks (work bonus) cant wait to see what kind of numbers i can pull, you guys have any idea?

I'd say good call on the hyper pistons. On a 300hp motor, forged pistons are a waste of money. I can't give you any good estimates on hp, because I have no idea how well those heads perform. The link was to a set of Trick Flow heads on Summit for $950 by the way. I really like Trick Flow heads because they perform really well. However, their factory finishing is among the worst. You'll definately want to drop the Trick Flows off at a machine shop to get them touched up if you buy them. That's going to be a couple hundred over the $950 asking price.

Kurt

fiveohwblow · Feb 18, 2011

94gt5.o said:
the link dident work but ive been looking for heads for awhile and have never seen trickflow heads for under 1100.

I just clicked the link and it worked for me... about 5 different options on summitracing.com website for Trick Flow heads below 1000 on their site. Do a search

94gt5.o · Feb 18, 2011

Ok so my computer must not have wanted to work cuz it works now lol and wow 950 for trickflow heads The only thing is the E street heads are supposed to be pretty much perfect out of box so i can just bolt them on. I really dont want to spend an extra 300 bucks to have my brand new heads touched up You know what i mean

fiveohwblow · Feb 18, 2011

94gt5.o said:
Ok so my computer must not have wanted to work cuz it works now lol and wow 950 for trickflow heads The only thing is the E street heads are supposed to be pretty much perfect out of box so i can just bolt them on. I really dont want to spend an extra 300 bucks to have my brand new heads touched up You know what i mean

I have personally ridden in 4 cars with Trick Flow heads never touched. All cars had over 300rwhp with safe tunes. IMHO and that of MANY others, Trick Flow are the best. You wont need to touch them at all. The advantage of the TF heads, is you can whenever you want "upgrade" them by having them messaged.... Out of the box stock though, you wont need to.

Also, on the cam, its more streetable to go with the stage 1 TF. Just my .02

94gt5.o · Feb 18, 2011

Okay i will have to make a hard choice on my heads and the stage one cam looks a lil more promising streetable wise I just dont want this motor turning into a huge project. Maybe I'm just bein dramatic lol

BlackVert · Feb 18, 2011

he corral forums have the largest for sale listing i know of

revhead347 · Feb 18, 2011

I just had a coworker buy a D.S.S. engine new for his Foxbody. He spent an extra $200 to get the Trick Flow heads with the Trick Flow 1 cam. The car is retarded fast, and idles very smooth. He had to get a chip for it, even though it was a Fox. I still believe those heads will really pick up with a little extra valve work.

Kurt

94gt5.o · Feb 19, 2011

I here what your saying about a little extra valve work everything but will i be able to just bolt them on no problems. And I'm not quiet sure which head to pick as far as valve size such as 194 intake 160 exhaust or 202 intake 160 exhaust. The block has huge valve reliefs so there shouldent be any clearence issues. Thanks for all the in put guys

revhead347 · Feb 19, 2011

I'm honestly not sure. It's all in what you want out of the motor. I don't think you'll pick up any extra power going to the 2.02 intake. I think it would be money poorly spent.

Kurt

NinJa_FLiP · Feb 20, 2011

my mistake.. posted wrong info..
anyway.. let me know how it goes with whatever combo u use, coz i may go the same route.. lol

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