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BigSlappy

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So, I just picked up this 87 mustang 5.0 as a project. The fuel pump turns on, but crank no start. It will start and run only off of starter fluid or gas if thrown in the throttle body. No gas on spark plugs when cranked. What should I do? Seems like fuel is going up the lines, but not coming out the injectors. Dropping whatever ideas would be greatly appreciated. Im new to the 5.0, so im learnin as i go! Also, I tried checking fuel pressure with a gauge instead of just removing one of the fuel lines from the tank, but cannot find the nipple that i put it on.
 

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I lied about the year. Its an 86 GT. Still fuel injected, but not sure if there is a difference.
 

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Check fuel pressure at the rail, if its low or none go back to the filter and check before after.... If it sat I would drop the tank anyway and go from there, blow the lines out, pull the rail and test the inectors. Sitting for long time tends to kill the fuel systems in these cars.
 

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The schrader valve is on the fuel hard line behind the alternator.
 

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General karthief said:
The schrader valve is on the fuel hard line behind the alternator.
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Couldnt find it. Ive seens videos of it being right next to the valve cover, but I cannot find one on that line at all.
 

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rednotch said:
Check fuel pressure at the rail, if its low or none go back to the filter and check before after.... If it sat I would drop the tank anyway and go from there, blow the lines out, pull the rail and test the inectors. Sitting for long time tends to kill the fuel systems in these cars.
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I have a fuel pump. Just gotta install it tomorrow. Ill check the rail too and see whats up with it. The car seemed like it sat for a while from all the grass on it lol.
 

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Just be ready to order a fuel tank, the majority of them are pretty rusty these days if it sat with ethanol blend in it. You can generally refresh the system for under 300 if you shop around with a new tank, pump sending unit etc... There's a bunch of threads on it over the last couple years.
 

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Stock fuel lines?
snap a pic
 

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General karthief said:
Stock fuel lines?
snap a pic
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Tomorrow I will send a pic. Not near the car currently
 
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AeroCoupe

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I’ve seen the rubber hose between the pump and the pickup assembly rot out. This will cause no fuel to the inlet side of the filter.

With that being said the guys are on point with the tank most likely being a wreck internally if it sat for some time with ethanol blended gasoline.
 
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Check the easy things first. You need to find the Shrader valve on the fuel rail, and determine if you have adequate fuel pressure there.

I just went thru this with a bowtie that sat for 1.5 years. Ran on starter fluid and I could hear the pump, but low pressure at the fuel rail. I put 2 gallons of fresh gas in the tank, primed the pump a few times until it built pressure, and it fired right up. Yup, it was out of gas. (bad gauge cluster so no accurate gauges either)

Check the easy things first.
 
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I havent been able to do anything due to a couple blizzards coming near me in Buffalo, but hopefully after christmas itll clear up
 

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I was just in Buffalo yesterday. You can keep your weather....
 

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Depending on how long the car sat, you may need to get all of the old gas out of the tank, lines and rail.
 

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I don’t believe 1986 has a schrader on the rail.
 

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Check and see if it is right by the fuel pressure regulator. I seem to recall some of the ‘86 cars having it there and I also want to say some have said their car just didn’t have one.
 

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Mstng93SSP said:
I was just in Buffalo yesterday. You can keep your weather....
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haha day 4 of inside. Driving ban still active so no donuts yet lol
 
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Yeah, it sucks because i need to get to Maine from Toronto and am having a tough time due to closed borders. Flights are really expensive too.
 

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BigSlappy said:
Couldnt find it. Ive seens videos of it being right next to the valve cover, but I cannot find one on that line at all.
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Follow the line to the rear of the engine bay. My ‘86 LX has the Schrader valve all the way in the back, right behind the 10pin connectors. You have to lean over the motor and look straight down behind those connectors. My ‘86 GT had it behind the alternator. Why it’s different, I don’t know.
 

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Finding the schrader valve and testing the fuel pressure is great but
You will still need to fix the problem (faulty regulator of broken rubber hose in the tank)
You should be able to pull the gas tank and replace the pump by the time you can catch a flight right now
Good luck
 
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