No one will install my SFCs or H pipe in Columbus

InMyPrimeSVT · Oct 19, 2005

Jeez, I'm having a helluva time getting a shop to weld in my SFCs as well as put on my H pipe since I dont have catalytic converters (it was sold to me that way). How the heck can I get this done? I've tried at least 4 shops. Any ideas? I'm in Columbus, Ohio.

sgarlic · Oct 19, 2005

I would suggest just doing the H-Pipe yourself. I went through the exact same problem trying to find a place to do my Mac o/r pipe on my '04. There's a federal law which is pretty clear that tells them not to touch vehicles with no cats if they care to stay in business.

If you have some PB blaster and various size sockets, you can do it yourself pretty easy.

stang8urimport · Oct 19, 2005

Don't be a puss and get your hands dirty. Do the h pipe yourself. It will take no more then an hour. Make sure to get the SFCs in before the h pipe so a shop doesn't give you crap for not having cats, and not wanting to work on your car.

InMyPrimeSVT · Oct 20, 2005

What's PB Blaster and where do I get it?

So why should I get the SFCs put on first before the H-pipe?

srothfuss · Oct 20, 2005

PB blaster is a spray that will help you loosen the bolts / nuts on your exhuast so you don't have bloody nuckles and stripped nuts while you try to take off the OEM H-pipe.

PB blaster can be picked up at your local Autozone / advanced auto parts / etc.

They recommended leaving the OEM H-pipe on so that the muffler shop that you take your car / subframes to won't give you a hard time about not having catalist's in your exhaust.. (did that make sence?)

If you can not find a shop in Ohio, you could always drive up to Detroit... Plenty of places around here that are more than willing to help out.

rd · Oct 20, 2005

Yeah, thats the law, and most shops are legit in not wanting to risk it.

One way around it, is to remove the tags, and trailer it to and from the shop. If you need to be more convincing, put some ET slicks and skinnies on it. I actually do trailer mine to the shop for most stuff it needs there, mostly alignments, because it is too far to drive with 4.10 gears.

This way, it is presented to the shop as an off road race only vehicle, and they are not violators. It sort of transfers the problem to you.

Or take the exhaust off and carry it to a welding shop, or do it yourself if possible.

Or, if it really is still a street vehicle, put cats on it.....

This was one of the issues that led me to a "toy only" car and all of my others are bone stock. Sales of cars like this are getting problematic also.

WD 40 works for this stuff also.

FORCED2DV8 · Oct 20, 2005

rd said:
Yeah, thats the law, and most shops are legit in not wanting to risk it.

One way around it, is to remove the tags, and trailer it to and from the shop. If you need to be more convincing, put some ET slicks and skinnies on it. I actually do trailer mine to the shop for most stuff it needs there, mostly alignments, because it is too far to drive with 4.10 gears.

This way, it is presented to the shop as an off road race only vehicle, and they are not violators. It sort of transfers the problem to you.

Or take the exhaust off and carry it to a welding shop, or do it yourself if possible.

Or, if it really is still a street vehicle, put cats on it.....

This was one of the issues that led me to a "toy only" car and all of my others are bone stock. Sales of cars like this are getting problematic also.

WD 40 works for this stuff also.

Yeah i agree, I dont have emissions laws here lucky me but if you tell them its a race only vehicle they can legally do it.

ninety15.0 · Oct 20, 2005

I would take the car down to the shop with the stoch h pipe on there and have em weld up the SFC's. then just do the h pipe yourself. the hardest part about swapping the h pipes is that the stock pipe has two cats right up by the header flanges that make it somewhat difficult to get to the bolts. Once you get the old h pipe off...putting an O/R pipe on is ten times easier b/c theres nothing in the way.

Autobodypro_1 · Oct 20, 2005

Any autobody shop has the proper equipment (Mig Welder, weld thru primer, lift) to weld your SFC's, however, the H pipe is an emission item and you may have to do it yourself or go with Hi-flow cats if your car isn't radical.

BaXTeR3221 · Oct 20, 2005

I would try finding a private shop or mechanic to do the H-pipe. They can be a PITA like the other guy said because the cats by the headers make the bolts difficult to get. When i had mine put on (before i did anything myself on the car), i took it to a private guy who had built many racecars and owned his own shop. He didn't say anything about having no cats, as i'm sure many of his cars were set up that way.

darthcual · Oct 20, 2005

Me thinks its called PB Buster but aye arrrrgh, I digress. No garage shade tree mechanic (me) should be without Ye barnicle blaster.

cevtv · Oct 20, 2005

http://www.pbblaster.com/

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gregpro50 · Oct 20, 2005

Take your car to a local welding shop for the subframes. They will charge next to nothing for it and they wont care if you have cats or are just running open headers...

The worst part of and H-pipe install IMO is getting the friggin O2 sensors out of the old pipe.

Blakthorn · Oct 20, 2005

thats funny, here in ny every shop wanted to do it

darthcual · Oct 20, 2005

Yar! I stand corrected, must be the patch over me eye!

TheUser · Oct 20, 2005

BaXTeR3221 said:
I would try finding a private shop or mechanic to do the H-pipe. They can be a PITA like the other guy said because the cats by the headers make the bolts difficult to get. .

The cats didn't seem to pose any problem for me really...remove the o2's and shoot some pb blaster/wd 40 on there, let it soak for a few minutes and get use enough extentions to get your ratchet down under the h-pipe so you can ratchet a little easier; place a pipe over your rachet for leverage and they'll come off.

PB Blaster is a product similar to WD-40, but seems to work better to me. I had some stuff WD 40 wouldn't loosen and PB Blaster did the trick - it sold me. It does cost a little more though.

InMyPrimeSVT · Oct 20, 2005

Well, if no one is gonna do this for me, I suppose I'll jack it up and start playing....here goes.

87TTopGT · Oct 21, 2005

A local muffler shop did my SFC's for not much money, and I did the H-pipe. Just make sure you have several different length extensions and a cheater pipe to bust those nuts loose. After 17 years my were a bit recalcitrant...

Foxfan88 · Oct 21, 2005

man it must suck ass having emissions laws.

move to oklahoma, there are mustangs here with Offroad pipes and everything that would violate any emissions laws anywhere else.

InMyPrimeSVT · Oct 21, 2005

No thanks to moving to Oklahoma. Nothing out there.

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