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347lxvert

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would my car run rich and cut out when i try to punch it if my o2 sensors are going out?
 

HISSIN50

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What codes are you seeing?

Once you get to WOT per the TPS (which is a TPS reading of ~3.7 volts if your baseline is around 1.0 volt) the input from the O2's (on a fox) are ignored.

Good luck.
 

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if your o2 sensors are bad your check engine light should be illuminated and you need to pull codes and post codes recieved and/or test o2 sensors a repair manual will advise you how to test o2 sensors with a digital voltmeter the manual can be purchased at any parts store and you can purchase a voltmeter at wal-mart for $20
 

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Dump the codes and see what the computer says is wrong…

Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great.

See http://www.troublecodes.net/Ford/
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See http://www.mustangworks.com/articles/electronics/eec-iv_codes.html

IF your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.

Codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see http://www.actron.com/product_detail.php?pid=16153 for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Walmart.

Or for a nicer scanner see http://www.midwayautosupply.com/detailedproductdescription.asp?3829 – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $35.
 
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85 is the only code we can get to come out of it
 

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347lxvert said:
85 is the only code we can get to come out of it
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In that case, I would provide more ancillary information about the issue. Also, if your username is indicative of your car, a list of modifications will be useful.

Good luck.
 
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8.5:1 compression
performer heads
bbk shortys 1 5/8
dynomax cat back with h pipe
trick flow street heat intake
70 mm BBK TB
24 lb injectors
soon to come, nitrous works nitrous plate kit
AOD with 3000 stall
C&L mass air meter
Cold Air Kit (cheapo)

Hope that helps
 

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Code 85 is a Canister Purge (CANP) circuit problem....do you have it disconnected?....it could be in a not-normal open position causing gas fumes to be continously drawn into the TB, if connected. If it's disconnected, that's the reason for that code....have you run a KOER self-test?...it would also help getting the results of that self-test. LUK
 
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all the emissions stuff is gone, smog pump and everything
 

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My first guess is TPS, my second would be a MAF issue. The MAF would usually shoot a code, but with the TPS, it's hard for the ECU to detect it unless it is completly open or shorted. Do a sweep, read the signal voltage, it should be right under 1V (.9xx) and as you open the throttle there should be a smooth increase in voltage until about 4.3-4.5V at WOT. Any spikes or dips will tell you that there is a problem. MAF's will do all kinds of crap if just a little dirt gets on the sensor wires.
 
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