Oh Boy, Another H/C/I Thread!

drakesdad · Nov 23, 2006

justin, I'm curious about the difference in air flow between the two intakes......the TFS looks larger......but I don't know the specs.....
But I have the TFS track heat and Don was able to tune 95 percent of the driveability issues and I think the other 5 percent is in the cheap PP throttle body....stick with BBK or Ford......shoot me an email at drakesdad@bex.net with you phone # and I call tell you all the don'ts that I made mistakes on....
Good luck brother.

BlackVert · Nov 23, 2006

tfs elbow is 75mm, the other one is prolly 70mm

match the elbow to the t/b whatever you do

diablostang · Nov 23, 2006

I would go with the TFS kit.

I've seen dyno comparisons between a Typhoon intake and a Brand name intake, and there was 20 HP difference. My buddy was at 298 RWHP, and the other guy was at 276 RWHP, the only difference being the intakes.

And 20 HP to the wheels is a LOT to gain/lose.

final5-0 · Nov 23, 2006

BlackVert said:
tfs elbow is 75mm, the other one is prolly 70mm

match the elbow to the t/b whatever you do

Yes ... not only is it bigger

It has a better path for airflow which makes it more efficient also

I of course am running the Edel

Grady

SeventyMach1 · Nov 25, 2006

The 4 voters for the AFM stuff ..... DID NOT leave reasoning WHY.

Also, they appear to be of the Fox croud.

That says enough.

JJ95GTID · Nov 25, 2006

SeventyMach1 said:
The 4 voters for the AFM stuff ..... DID NOT leave reasoning WHY.

Also, they appear to be of the Fox croud.

That says enough.

Alright, here's my opinion for voting for the AFM kit. Anderson is well known for dyno running parts for proving performance at his shop. Another reason are his customers are racers who depend on his knowledge. Chances are that the AFM "kit" will out perform the TFS kit. Also, I have not read, on any forum or literature, bad experiences with AFM.
BUT,
You would probably be better off money wise if you bought the same parts elsewhere. AFM seems to overcharge IMO.
That being said I would rather just buy the intake and heads I want and get a cam, either OTS or custom grind, that works with our EEC so as not to need a tuner/chip to make the engine run smooth.
This is a budget minded thought process BTW.

SeventyMach1 · Nov 25, 2006

Understood Joe. And sorry for accusing you of being in the Fox croud, lol. I just took a quick glance at the poll results. Not that it would be a bad thing, either ..... just peeps over here know things that are best suited for our cars.

I'll still be using the TFS stuff. A good thing there is .... I have to get MANY other things .... so why not save $$$ (especially on shipping) and just get it all at once (what I can) from Summit?

JJ95GTID · Nov 25, 2006

I use SummitRacing alot especially since their Reno, NV warehouse is just south of my location. I get quick delivery from them. Never have I been dissatisfied with their service or parts.
I did have to return a set of A-arms because the sealed FRPP box came with two passanger side arms. Not Summit's fault though.

frcefedlx · Nov 25, 2006

I would think that the TFS stuff would make the best power due to the fact its engineered around the heads. I had some experience with Pro Products and am on the fence with their stuff. The throttle body sucked but the balancer was not to bad. However I felt all the TFS stuff was a well made product. I hear the typhoon needs a little attention right out of the box, so for the extra money you still have to work the parts a little bit. no thanks

final5-0 · Nov 25, 2006

I will point peeps back in this thread where Kyle and Chris made comments about those rr's. If the AFM kit does indeed use them, I have no qualms about running up the red flag of caution. One only needs to search out those peeps threads and learn from their mistakes they had to learn the hard way. I will end the thought by saying a wise man would look into that stuff to be sure.

It does seem like nobody has been able to provide any dyno results from the AEM kit

Still say you guys are missing the boat when you pick combo parts based upon your pcm might cause issues

I think of a tune as a go fast part

No different than
heads
intake
gears
etc

Can we go fast without one of those parts

They cost money ... as so with a tune

Grady

SeventyMach1 · Nov 25, 2006

The PCM is one thing ..... but it's not what I've based my decision on. There are SEVERAL things. No dyno proof (as you said Grady), the skepticism on the rockers, etc. Also the Typhoon isn't what I'd like. I know you run it Grady, but I have read so many times that it "needs help" out of the box. Not something I want to have to do when I can get the Track Heat that doesn't need that.

I'm still trying to gather results on the TFS 1 cam. I've seen that it's about 50/50. Some say toss it & get a custom grind, some say keep it & that it's great. I do know that I am keeping it (again, different plans down the road don't justify NOT keeping it for now), I was just doing the research.

final5-0 · Nov 25, 2006

SeventyMach1 said:
The PCM is one thing ..... but it's not what I've based my decision on. There are SEVERAL things. No dyno proof (as you said Grady), the skepticism on the rockers, etc. Also the Typhoon isn't what I'd like. I know you run it Grady, but I have read so many times that it "needs help" out of the box. Not something I want to have to do when I can get the Track Heat that doesn't need that.

I'm still trying to gather results on the TFS 1 cam. I've seen that it's about 50/50. Some say toss it & get a custom grind, some say keep it & that it's great. I do know that I am keeping it (again, different plans down the road don't justify NOT keeping it for now), I was just doing the research.

I might point out I run the REAL intake in my case
and
not the COPY CAT
so
I didn't have to hose around with any of that stuff

I take no offense by any of the above
and
can certainly understand your point of view

One good thing to say about the TFS kit

Everybody and their dog has run it

That gives you tons of data to sift through
and
makes your decision much more easier

Hey ... I'd tell you to go with the Burger King Combo

Have it YOUR way

Pick each specific part based upon your needs & desires

True ... my opinion is kinda biased

Good Luck which ever way you go Justin

Grady

wytstang · Nov 25, 2006

So AFM uses a cheaper intake and RR and still cost more? I would def go for the TF parts better quality hands down. I think e-brock offered a H/C/I kit as well, if they do check out that kit and see what it offers.

SeventyMach1 · Nov 25, 2006

final5-0 said:
I might point out I run the REAL intake in my case
and
not the COPY CAT
so
I didn't have to hose around with any of that stuff

I have no idea where I got that, lol. For some reason I was thinking you ran the Typhoon.

BlackVert · Nov 25, 2006

i would decide what rpm range i wanted to optimize and then pick a package around that.

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