Planning the future of my 5.0

[Nopantz]

Well I have some money tied up in a Certificate of Deposit that expires in the summer. My plan was to take this money and spend half of it on an HCI and the other half on restoring the exterior to immaculate shape. Well I have been doing some reading and thinking and really think eventually I want a Turbo.

My car is a stock motor car with the mods in my sign. It has 61,000 original miles on it and the motors runs like a champ. I was considering instead of the HCI doing an HP Performance or Hellion Turbo Kit instead. These kits include all the extra parts I would end up buying anyway if I wanted an HCI (ie Fuel injectors, fuel pump, electirc fan). I think the stock block would hold together fine running a conservative tune with 6-8psi.

What do you all think of this plan instead of the HCI, wise or not? Then when I am more finacially stable in a few years I can have someone like Rick build me a nice Dart based 331 with all the trimings and turn up the boost on the turbo. Sounds like it would work and be a wise way to go to me.

Suggestions/ Comments?

Thanks
-Steve

P.S. Sorry for the long explanation

 

[billison]

Just my thoughts, but i think you'd be alot happier with the build engine now, and bolt on the extras later. I'd do alot of shopping and see what you can find, depending on what you have to spend you might find a good deal on a built motor...but i may just be ranting

 

[Nopantz]

A built motor I think would be out of my budget range right now, i may be wrong, I'm not sure what a built motor would cost.

 

[billison]

Well what is your budget? And you may be right but sometimes you find a good deal , i've not done alot of looking, but maybe you'll find something. If you want the turbo go for it, but if your not sure shop arround and see what you find, i've see turbo kits go for under a grand, and i've seen nice motors go for 2-3 k. Just don't jump as soon as you see something, spend some time scanning the adds here and on other sites, try foureyedpride, carbdford.com, corral.net, mustangforums and even ebay, i knew a guy selling a turbo setup for a cobra for like 800, but that was about a month ago

 

[Nopantz]

thanks billison my budget is probably no more than 6k. I will look around and see what i can find.

any other comments or opinions on my plans?

 

[billison]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOSS...tegoryZ33615QQihZ010QQitemZ200052331748QQrdZ1

Just what i found on ebay

 

[Mr. Rustypwnz]

no dont get a carb engine, yeah cheap power, but a efi 408 afr headed engine would be more efficient and powerful, check out ricks site, or call up dss. I personally think you should go turbo, keep it at 8psi and have fun!!! it would be cheaper than a engine also.

 

[Nopantz]

i figure with a turbo on a stock motor i can run safely and have some real fun.....and eventually when I have more funds go to Rick. Is this such a bad idea?

 

[mricci]

I think its a good idea, my car is basically stock other than catback, gt-40 intake, U/D pulleys and gears. Im saving up now for a hellion turbo kit. People are making just under or 400 hp with them on well running stock motors. I figured i could spend a few thousand and get 300 hp with a good hci or like 5k and get the complete turbo kit, injectors, maf, everything on the top of the motor nice and shiny. All the while still having stock driveability. Then if i want more down the road i can upgrade the block, throw a stroker in it and h/c/i and be making over 500 easily at the wheels.

 

[billison]

sounds good

 

[Nopantz]

I think Hellion Kit it is


how much better can it get...stock motor at 8psi making roughly 375 RWHP and 415RWTQ

 

[91ghp5.0]

Hellion kit is 5k out the door.

Then you have to install it.

Then run dyno time, and tuning it. That's gonna be pretty damn close to 6k right there.

Personally, do HCI, don't risk blowing up your high mile block (what money will you spend if it blows up?), and use the rest on your exterior and supporting mods.

Buy the Trick Flow top end kit and be done with it. Not to rain on your parade, but a turbo kit is pretty expensive, and that's a lot for a 61k stock block. I wish I could do it too, but I can't right now.

What about a blower? 5-6 psi out of a Paxton Novi 1000 or an SC-trim?

 

[91ghp5.0]

you'll put out around 400.

edit: when i meant 6k in the post above, i meant total. i did not think tuning will be 6k alone

 

[Nopantz]

very wise 91ghp5.0 I needed a little slap on the back of the head to knock me out of dreaming land. Your right in many ways the TFS topend kit is $2100 then you have to buy supporting mods (ie injectors, fuel pump, maf) thats probably another $800. so were already at $3000. which is definitely less then a turbo and i dont have to worry about splitting my block.

 

[91ghp5.0]

Get an accufab TB, a new maf, 24 lb/hr injectors, AFPR, and a good tune.

I wanted to do the same thing, but it isn't realistic.