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Tonys96Cobra

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And is my car supposed to have 2 anti sway bars in the rear? Im still sorting through what the previous onwers have done this car. Thanks.



 

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Looks like a rear strut tower brace?? They have those in the new 350Z's
 

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That is a shock tower brace. Post up a picture of the rear end area and we can tell you what else it has. It should not have two rear sway bars, perhaps the car has a panhard bar.
 

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It ties the two rear shock towers together to reduce chasis flex. So it's technically not a sway bar...
 

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1SLO306

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yeah exactly what they said, i cant add more more to it
 

srothfuss

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Your second picture has left me speachless!
 

Michael Yount

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Yes indeed - your car does have two rear sway bars installed. I guess the previous owner wanted more rear roll stiffness. I'm guessing the rustier one was an aftermarket add-on. I'll bet it's fun to drive in the rain....
 

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Michael Yount said:
Yes indeed - your car does have two rear sway bars installed. I guess the previous owner wanted more rear roll stiffness. I'm guessing the rustier one was an aftermarket add-on. I'll bet it's fun to drive in the rain....
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Luckily I dont have to drive it in the rain. I wondered why it handled better than the other foxes Ive owned. Thanks guys!
 

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wow, two rear sway bars hahaha. its even got end links and bushings like a front type


hm....
 

Michael Yount

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With all the weight in the front, the Fox bodies push like pigs unless power induced oversteer is dialed up -- the previous owner was probably trying to help reduce the push...more rear roll stiffness loosens things up...
 

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The black one is the factory sway bar and the little one is a Steeda adjustable sway bar.

I personally wouldn't run both. With a super stiff rear end, your car will be prone to oversteer now. I would go with one or the other, but not both.

The other bar is a rear shock tower brace. The rear shocks have no bearing on rear suspension geometry, but the bar does help stiffen up the rear "box" slightly
 

Michael Yount

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Can't see where the bolt-on unit is adjustable -- you'd need some way of altering the lever-arm length -- that doesn't appear to be possible based on the picture.
 

Michael Yount

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Also, the bolt on unit appears to be MUCH smaller than the unit in the factory location -- if you just leave that one on, it doesn't look like it will do much for rear roll stiffness.
 

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i see you also have some fluid seepage at your axle housing cover you need to replace that gasket.........
 
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It is not uncommon for there to be two rear sway bars - one stock, one aftermarket add-on. It all depends on the maker of the aftermarket unit. Some choose to replace the stock one (and its location) while other companies make an add-on that supplements the stock one.

For it to be adjustable, all it needs to be able to have are separate bolt hole locations where it mounts. I believe the Steeda ones have 3 hole sets, ranging from shorter bar length (tighter, less play) to longer bar length.
 

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Michael Yount said:
Also, the bolt on unit appears to be MUCH smaller than the unit in the factory location -- if you just leave that one on, it doesn't look like it will do much for rear roll stiffness.
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I was going to comment on this after some thinking but you beat me to it. With such a short "second" bar, I can't see there being very much mechanical advantage with it. Sure, it bolts right to the frame of the car but it looks tiny compared to the OEM bar... Regardless of adjustability, without the rest of the car setup to allow for the "second" bar I'd remove it.

When you jack the back half of the car into the air, does the rear end droop like it should? That bar looks like it's bolted right to the body.
 

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Here is some info on the Steeda.....




http://www.steeda.com/store/-catalog/rearswaybar.htm

PST used to sell an add-on bar, too.



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Neither the bar pictured on the car, or the one pictured above is adjustable. Well - unless you consider either 1) having it on the car, or 2) off the car - a form of 'adjustment'. In which case the one on the car is adjusted to the 'on' position; and the one in the picture above is adjusted to the 'off' position.
 

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I've seen a number of fwd cars where the addition of a second bar in the back was a common way to add rear roll stiffness - especially the late 70's/80's VW products. I confess, adding a second bar to a Stang - it's the first I've seen. I suspect the Steeda bar was developed for cars that had no rear bar originally. But, maybe not...
 
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