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I am going to attempt to build my first motor.I have a stock 302HO and am undecided on what to do.Some of my friends tell me to put a 347 stroker kit in it.I would like to have around 350-400 horsepower.This will be a street only 92 Fox just to have fun in.I would like to have different opinions on what to do and if possible a list of parts that work together with one another.I only have a 3000 dollar budget.Thanks in advance Mustang Fans.
 

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3G's will burn up fast. I'd do up a nice H/C/I combo with some supporting upgrades and call it a day
 
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i had stock 302 with gt40p setup and a vortech V3 making 6psi put down 311 hp and 320 tq at the ground on the dyno. best route i can say is go SC
 

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lil l said:
.Some of my friends tell me to put a 347 stroker kit in it.I would like to have around 350-400 horsepower.
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ok,give me some ideas on what I can do with the budget I have.What about explorer heads,upper and lower intake from junkyard and a b-cam?If this is a good idea,what else would be needed to make this 302HO a nice street motor?Thanks for input.
 

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You need to really think about what your goals are and be realistic. Also consider used parts...that will help your budget a lot. There are a lot of ways to get 350-400hp but 3k is going to be pretty tight. I went the used route and bought my stroker block with the cam already in it for $1350, and just getting it installed into the car ended up costing me right at $2k after gaskets, balancer, flywheel, and a few random things. It's the little things that add up fast. I already had my heads and the rest of my combo...i'm not sure you could do it for $3k unless you found a mostly complete engine used for around that.

A supercharger would be a good option, but then you're also looking at dyno time and possibly a short engine life. Nitrous is also another easy option, with similar drawbacks. Heads/cam/intake can be done for your budget if you can install everything yourself. If labor is going to be a part of this...you might wanna save up more cash.

You can go the super cheap route, and get some junkyard GT40P heads, a set of used headers, a used Trick Flow Stage 1 cam, and any decent intake and with traction and good driving you'll have a 12 second combo...but it won't make 350-400hp.
 

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On a budget? do the junkyard upgrade... Start at the top of the list and work your way downward. You'll have a nice kick in the pants when you stand on the accelerator and still have money in your wallet for other things. As a plus, you'll have done a lot of the simple bolt on stuff first and will have a feel for what is required to do the more complex engine work in a Head/Intake/Cam upgrade.

Gears - 87-88 T-Bird Turbo Coupe rear axle - disc brakes and 3.55 or 3.73 gears in one package for $125-$300. Add another $100-$200 or so to complete the brake upgrade.

94-95 Mustang GT MAF - $40-$100. It is 70 MM instead of the stock 55 MM on regular stangs built prior to 94. It uses a slip on duct on the side that goes to the throttle body and a 4 bolt flange on the other. You need a flange adapter to fit the stock slip on air ducting that goes to the air box. Wiring plugs right in with no changes. *1 *2

95-97 Ford Explorer intake manifold & throttle body $150-$300. The intake manifold flows 220 CFM +, much better than stock. Throttle body is 65 MM, bigger than the 60 MM on stock stangs. I got a 96 with EGR passages that match the stock setup, so my smog gear works just like factory. You’ll need a 65 MM EGR spacer & new gaskets for $65-$90 so you have a place to mount the EGR & throttle linkage.

3G alternator from 94-95 Mustangs or other Ford. $20-$120. A must have to make the electrical system work like it should or if you have an electric fan. You’ll need a 4 gauge power wire and a 125-135 amp fuse to go with it about $15- $30.

Lincoln MK VIII electric fan -$40-$160. Free up some HP by not having to drive the stock fan. The 3G alternator upgrade is a must have prerequisite before you do the MK VIII fan. You won’t have enough electrical power if you don’t do the 3G upgrade.

Aluminum driveshaft: (courtesy of shawn13) It needs to be from a 92-93-94 Aerostar AWD. It measures 45 ½” center of the front U-joint to center of the rear U-joint. You will need the U-joint, part #PUJ353 from NAPA. The Canadian NAPA pat number is 1-0134BF. It should bolt right up after the U-joint swap.
Note: This driveshaft is not an exact duplicate of the Ford Racing part. It is 3” in diameter while the Ford Racing part is 3.5” in diameter.

*1.) Metal flange adapter Kurtz Kustomz Motorsports, Inc. KKM Buy the TR70 for $40. Or spend some time on eBay looking for one that may fit.

*2.) MAF & sensor interchange
The 94-95 Mustang 5.0 MAF & sensor is also found on:
1995-94 Mustang 3.8L F2VF-12B579-A2A,
1994-92 Crown Victoria 4.6L F2VF-12B579-A2A,
1995-94 Mustang, Mustang Cobra 5.0L F2VF-12B579-A2A,
1994-92 Town Car 4.6L F2VF-12B579-A2A,
1994-92 Grand Marquis 4.6L F2VF-12B579-A2A,
Evidently the –A1A, -A2A, AA, etc. on the end of the part number is a minor variant that did not change the operating specs. You should be able to ignore it and have everything work good.
 
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If I use engine parts from the junkyard,do they need to be rebuilt or can I just change them out?That probably sounds crazy but i'm new to this stuff.
 

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The maf, fan, alternator, and intake just need a good cleaning. I would have heads checked by a shop and upgraded valve springs installed. The alternator can be hit or miss. Have it checked by a local part store. Return it if it doesnt well.
 

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If you plan on stepping up to aftermarket heads down the road dont worry about putting money into rebuilding junkyard heads. Money you spend on a valve job can go to other things. Try to find an explorer with low miles and pull the heads.
 

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Explorer heads will at the very least need upgraded springs. To have a shop check to make sure they are straight, install new springs, freezeplugs, and guides is not very costly.
 
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