power steering pump question

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I just removed the power steering pump on my 92 gt. What do i have to do to get the water pump to flow the right way?

 

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You do not have to do anything. Just run a shorter belt.
Maybe this will help.
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I am assuming he doesn't have A/C. If he doesn't, that changes things a little.

Tim

 

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Even if he doesn't you can still run a shorter belt. You just have to run the belt over the tensioner pulley rather than under it and get a larger water pump pulley to give the belt more surface area to ride on.

 

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I guess I just can't visualize it, not to say you are not right by any means. Here is groverdill's old setup. There was no smog pump, but you get the idea.

GroverDill said:

Standard rotation water pump
March Alt bracket PN#1465
looked like this before the blower.

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You can do it without buying those brackets like this.
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You just have to loosen up the alternator and take out the top bolt and pry it back into place after getting the belt on.

 

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If you run the belt on top of the tensioner, how does it make the belt tight? Do you turn the tensioner upside down?

Tim

EDIT: I think I know what you are saying. Sorry bro!

 

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stang22 said:

If you run the belt on top of the tensioner, how does it make the belt tight? Do you turn the tensioner upside down?

Tim

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When you loosen the alternator, you take the top bolt out, then you loosen the bottom bolt and move the alternator over to the right to put the belt on, then pry the alternator back to it's mounting point and put the bolt back in.

You do not have to do anything with the tensioner. You just leave it for an idler pulley. Pulling the alternator back into place will put the tension on the belt.

I have done this on several cars but I do not have a picture handy to show you. I will try to dig one up.

 

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stang22 said:

EDIT: I think I know what you are saying. Sorry bro!

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It's all good Tim.

Just trying to give him options without spending money on new brackets.

 

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No sweat!

Sorry to hijack this thread. Maybe we ironed out any questions he might have had?

Tim

 

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I hope so.....



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Thanks guys this helps a little. And yes i don't have a/c or a smog pump. My only problem is i have the ford racing underdrive pullys on my water pump and crank. So what size pulley do i need to step up to on the water pump. And does'nt this kind of defeat the purpose of the underdrive pulleys. When i'm only trying to make more power by eliminating the power steering.

 

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From the March site.

Adjustable Alternator Bracket Kit
This kit comes complete with bracket, stainless steel adjusting rod, chrome moly rod end and mounting hardware for serpentine or v-belt set ups.

Part# 1465 - 5.0
Price... $58.45

 

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stang22 said:

I guess I just can't visualize it, not to say you are not right by any means. Here is groverdill's old setup. There was no smog pump, but you get the idea.

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The march alternater bracket you mentioned pn.1465 does it completely eliminate the stock bracket?

 

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Judging by the pic of groverdill's and the information on the March site, I would say yes. PM groverdill and get the details of it, he could probably help you out more than I can.

Tim

 

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aod92 said:

Thanks guys this helps a little. And yes i don't have a/c or a smog pump. My only problem is i have the ford racing underdrive pullys on my water pump and crank. So what size pulley do i need to step up to on the water pump. And does'nt this kind of defeat the purpose of the underdrive pulleys. When i'm only trying to make more power by eliminating the power steering.

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Well actually you have the correct water pump pulley if you have the Ford Racing pulley setup.
Remember the underdrive crank pulley is smaller and the underdrive water pump pulley is larger.

So the answer is NO, you are not defeating the purpose.

 

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Also with Joe's setup, the water pump would be spinning in the wrong direction. This is what aod92 is trying to avoid.
He must have replaced it with a standard rotation water pump because this would have it spinning the wrong way.

 

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Wow Kevin, you are all over this one. I think groverdill's waterpump in that pic is a standard rotation pump. I thought the stock water pump was reverse rotation? Anyway, in an effort for me not to give him anymore bad information, here is a link that uses the tensioner and moves it to the other side where the a/c used to be. Think this might be his best bet, just my opinion. Thanks for saving me Kevin.

Tim

The only thing this won't do is eliminate the stock alternator bracket.

http://www.marchperf.com/instructions/1460_instructions.pdf

 

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Here is a link to a kit that comes with a standard rotation waterpump. Just thought I would throw this in here...

http://www.replicaparts.com/standard rotation water pump page.htm

 

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Tim,
You are correct about the standard rotation water pump. I was thinking opposite of the factory (ie reversed). Fixed....

Another useful link to throw in there.
http://www.angelfire.com/ns/PurgingPony/Belttensioner.html