i have power steering on my 65 and it leakes like crazy...to the point it doesnt do anything cuz there isnt any pressure. can i just take it out and not have to hassle with it considering i practically already drive without it.. i would imagine i would pick up a lil more hp because it would elminate a pully. if i do this...what all do i need to take off, plug, tie up, ect... thanks
power steering...yes or no?
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TOM B
20+ Year Stangneter 
WHY DONT YOU JUST FIX IT. manual steering is a bitc* If you must do it then do it right. Just about all the linkage needs changed to be safe.
Stang_1973
Founding Member
Well my friend drives her '66 without power steering and says it's not that bad once you get used to it. But, cant you just fix it? Do you know where the leak is coming from? I remember mine leaked from one of the hoses so i just replaced it. Now it leaks directly from the the canister (cant spell resivour) So I am just going to replace it with a new pump and canister to avoid problems. It's like 70 bucks if you return the core.
charlies
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i have driven an old stang with power steering, with manual steering, and with the belt unhooked on the power steering.
first off: you won't notice any horsepower gain. it may gain you a couple to a few hp, if that. no way you'll ever notice.
i have heard that driving a system w/out the belt for an extended period of time will destroy the valve, making it irrepairable.
unhooked power steering is harder than manual steering.
first off: you won't notice any horsepower gain. it may gain you a couple to a few hp, if that. no way you'll ever notice.
i have heard that driving a system w/out the belt for an extended period of time will destroy the valve, making it irrepairable.
unhooked power steering is harder than manual steering.
65fastback2+2
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reenmachine
20+ Year Stangneter
I agree with the general "ask the audience" opinion...just fix it. 
Driving with unhooked power steering is way different than driving with true manual steering. Pretty much all of the hardware is different, and it would probably cost you more to convert to proper manual steering than it would to rebuild your power steering system to perfect condition.
Power steering is nice when it's working. The only thing I like about manual steering is the "Popeye" arms you get, which attract women.
Driving with unhooked power steering is way different than driving with true manual steering. Pretty much all of the hardware is different, and it would probably cost you more to convert to proper manual steering than it would to rebuild your power steering system to perfect condition.
Power steering is nice when it's working. The only thing I like about manual steering is the "Popeye" arms you get, which attract women.
ive already attempted to fix it...had seals replaced in the resivour/pump and it worked for a short time untill they blew or something now it leaks like crazy. i have a little bit of confusion with what the resivour and pump are...i only see one thing...a round resivour looking thin with a filler tube on top and a pully stickin off the front. where would be the place to purchase new stuff.
charlies
New Member
Just for your info...
I only have 66 specs, but...
manual steering ratio = 19.9:1
special manual = 16:1
power steering ratio = 16:1
However... Here's the catch...
The power steering control link on the center link is held in place (centered) by pressure from the pump. Removing that pressure allows the link to move to the extreme limits of its travel without hinderance. What do you get? A very sloppy, loose steering wheel. I do think that I remember that someone made a kit to eliminate the looseness, but who, I don't know or if it's still around. Anyway, my 2 cents.
I only have 66 specs, but...
manual steering ratio = 19.9:1
special manual = 16:1
power steering ratio = 16:1
However... Here's the catch...
The power steering control link on the center link is held in place (centered) by pressure from the pump. Removing that pressure allows the link to move to the extreme limits of its travel without hinderance. What do you get? A very sloppy, loose steering wheel. I do think that I remember that someone made a kit to eliminate the looseness, but who, I don't know or if it's still around. Anyway, my 2 cents.
Great68
Founding Member
I love power steering on these cars, so effortless, I like being able to turn the wheel with my pinky finger.
65fastback2+2
New Member
19mustang65 said:
sometimes on old cars there is no "fix" its replace. To control movement when you turn left or right, the pitman arm, which is the arm that is attached to your steering column under the car, attaches to a ball stud that is in the drag link (part that the tie rods connect to) this ball study moves left and right and pushes or releases a pin in the control valve to control pressure and thus movement left to right. If you just disconnect it, this about 2" of travel becomes 2" of play in your steering. Definately just get a new $100 pump, and go with it.
update...replacement time
i pulled the resivor/pump off of a 65 falcon i have along with the shock looking thing(im not sure what its called) that also leaks. what do i need to do to install both of these on my car...such as do i need to fill the hoses full of fluid before putting the pump on so there arnt any air bubbles or what?
i pulled the resivor/pump off of a 65 falcon i have along with the shock looking thing(im not sure what its called) that also leaks. what do i need to do to install both of these on my car...such as do i need to fill the hoses full of fluid before putting the pump on so there arnt any air bubbles or what?
65fastback2+2
New Member
19mustang65 said:
fill up the pump. leave the cap off. turn the car on, turn it lock to lock, thats all the way left then all the way right, do this about 4-5 times, then add more fluid. From empty to full is about 1.5 quarts.
burnout289
Founding Member
power steering is for girlie-men. I got a kit that removes all the guts of the control valve, plugs it, and blocks it off for aruond $60. that was like 2+ years ago and I forget where I got it, but it was cake to install, and to remove all the p/s crap. the more pricey kits have a piece that screws on in place of the control valve, which is nice if you want to try and sell your old parts as a kit for someone else to fix.
here's one:
http://www.canadianmustang.com/store.mv?p=700207
M+ has one for $130 or so, also
I got a kit that removes all the guts of the control valve, plugs it, and blocks it off for aruond $60. that was like 2+ years ago and I forget where I got it, but it was cake to install, and to remove all the p/s crap. the more pricey kits have a piece that screws on in place of the control valve, which is nice if you want to try and sell your old parts as a kit for someone else to fix.here's one:
http://www.canadianmustang.com/store.mv?p=700207
M+ has one for $130 or so, also
65fastback2+2
New Member
19mustang65 said:
good job! now you just gotta rebuild the control valve, and you are a complete power steering pro
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