Professional Products Tb&Plenum

Gearbanger 101 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Professional Products throttle bodies just rebadged Mac's? In which case....buyer beware, because you get exactly what you pay for. :nonono:


I have owned a mac TB and this a far better piece than the mac. The mac idled for **** and was always sticking. The inside of the plenum was a little rough ( not ass much as the stocker) but the Tb was as smooth as a babies azz.
 
No, I don't think its a copy of the Mac piece. The mac plenum looks more like the C&L plenum in terms of design look, and this plenum reminds me more of the Dragon and Trickflow plenums. I'll agree with jivepepper above, the Mac throttle bodies(least my experience with them) are crap. I had a 70mm Mac throttle body and I couldn't get it to close all the way and idled like crap. I have a 70mm FRPP throttle body now, and its much better quality. These parts mentioned above do not resemble the Mac parts, least not from what I can see.
 
Gearbanger 101 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Professional Products throttle bodies just rebadged Mac's? In which case....buyer beware, because you get exactly what you pay for. :nonono:

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OK back on subject... If I hadn't already bought the Accufab plenum long ago, maybe I'd go for this cheap plenum instead. A $5 sanding wheel should help clean up the rough spots on the inside. Even if Mac is behind the manufacturing of the plenum, at least there aren't any moving parts like their throttle body disasters. I've always just used the Ford Racing 70mm T-body, but at times I wonder if a 75mm would do anything more. :shrug:
 
Dark Knight GT said:
On a carb car, then yeah, thats different as a carb mixes the fuel with the air in the carb. So, a rough surface is better for better air/fuel mixture.


Yeah, I remember the carb days. It did help the mix. Just tossing it out there for discussion. I now have a Dremmel kit so I could probably smooth the surfaces. Did you know that a P&P (not talking valve work) doesn't really help N/A 4.6L? Bierbelly and I looked at a lot of P&P headswapped Stangs with & w/o P&P. No difference to speak of. I'd bet port matching helps though.
 
mrvax said:
Isn't it possible with the rough finish the airflow/turbulance could actually help? It's not like it's an airflow obstruction. :shrug:

As mentioned above, only on a carburated/TBI setup where fuel and air are together in the manifold. A dry manifold is not going to see any benefit from a "rough" surface. I haven't seen this plenum (Prof. Products) up close, but I'm sure it's nothing a flapper wheel couldn't smooth out. Definitely a great price on a plenum/TB combo...
 
mrvax said:
Yeah, I remember the carb days. It did help the mix. Just tossing it out there for discussion. I now have a Dremmel kit so I could probably smooth the surfaces. Did you know that a P&P (not talking valve work) doesn't really help N/A 4.6L? Bierbelly and I looked at a lot of P&P headswapped Stangs with & w/o P&P. No difference to speak of. I'd bet port matching helps though.
Well, I hear mixed results with p&p cylinder heads. A lot of it depends on who it is that is doing your head porting for you. It also depends on what kind of intake, cams, and tune you're going to be running with the combo. I've seen lots of modular head build ups, and I will admit, the port work seems to do very little for the money people are spending to get it done. I think the typical cost for a port & polish, valve job, ss valves, broze valve guides and springs professionaly assembled is between 1600-2000 dollars. Quite expensive.
 
Something else I should note, is I believe Professional products(the ones in the pictures above) are made in China. At least I think they are. For that reason, I'm not going to bother buying one. I'de rather keep a nice American company like Accufab or C&L in buisness, than to keep funding my money to a company whose plants are over seas.
 
I just purchased but haven't installed my PP throttle body and plenum. I agree that the tb looks great and seems to be good quality. The throttle opens and closes smoothly and the inside surface is finished very nicely without any roughness. The plenum is definately larger than the factory one(I've got my factory one off now) but yes it does need a little finish sanding inside. I am very happy for the price I paid.
 
I've got the prof. products 75mm tb with a granatelli plenum, the whole thing cost me like $250 including shipping charges. I definetily feel a power increase with this combo. The tb feels very nice and it idles and works perfect. I really don't see the benefit in spending $180 + on a tb if you can get one like this for much cheaper. I can't wait for someone to test the new Typhoon intake manifold from Prof. products, seems like a good alternative when the stock one goes boom on me.