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deftsound

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nice, does the harness bar provide additional chassis rigidity?
 

Night Shifter

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in theory it should. However, after i installed mine i felt no difference in cornering with it in. I used to live on a road that used to be a creek so it was nothing but pebbles and holes and i did notice less creaking of the interior with it. handling wise, ive still never really felt a difference..

i could be wrong though
 

deftsound

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Night Shifter said:
in theory it should. However, after i installed mine i felt no difference in cornering with it in. I used to live on a road that used to be a creek so it was nothing but pebbles and holes and i did notice less creaking of the interior with it. handling wise, ive still never really felt a difference..

i could be wrong though
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Yea i would think it would, hmm, my only deal is if i was going to go to the effort to install a harness bar i'd just do an entire roll cage....
 

Night Shifter

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a harness bar is waay more simpler than putting a roll cage in as you already know lol.. plus it weighs a ton less... but if you're looking for definite rigidity then a roll bar would be the way you'd want to go..

mine is in the car so that i can be legit for hpde events and such but also be able to get in and out of the car for daily driving.. i think a roll bar is a tad much for a street car... but once it goes back to not being the DD maybe then id rethink the roll bar idea
 

deftsound

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Night Shifter said:
a harness bar is waay more simpler than putting a roll cage in as you already know lol.. plus it weighs a ton less... but if you're looking for definite rigidity then a roll bar would be the way you'd want to go..

mine is in the car so that i can be legit for hpde events and such but also be able to get in and out of the car for daily driving.. i think a roll bar is a tad much for a street car... but once it goes back to not being the DD maybe then id rethink the roll bar idea
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Yea i see what you're saying, i just like the idea of the added safety of a roll bar. My car isn't a daily driver though so i could justify it on mine.
 
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stprorolla49 said:
Thanks for the advice. I am thinking about rewelding some of these parts on here because the welds weren't as clean as I would have liked. I guess if you have any tips on the best way to get the tig into the tight spots, like where the main tube dips down right after its welded to the side mounting tabs...right underneath there is hard to get the welder in there without extending the tungsten, but then I get improper shielding. Suggestions? Thanks!
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getting into those tight sections with the tig torch can be tough, a mini torch with a flexible head will be easier to maneuver in those tight places. I would suggest going to your welding supply store and talking to them about a gas lens, that will provide you with better gas coverage for those complicated joints.

Understanding the Basics of Gas Lenses some pretty good information about lenses here.

a good torch setup goes a long way. you can also get some smaller diameter tungsten, i would also suggest grinding more of a gradual taper on the tip of your tungsten, it will help the gas flow surrounding the weld pool, and let you turn up the flow rate a bit.

hope that helps a bit
 

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just_a_guy84 said:
getting into those tight sections with the tig torch can be tough, a mini torch with a flexible head will be easier to maneuver in those tight places. I would suggest going to your welding supply store and talking to them about a gas lens, that will provide you with better gas coverage for those complicated joints.

Understanding the Basics of Gas Lenses some pretty good information about lenses here.

a good torch setup goes a long way. you can also get some smaller diameter tungsten, i would also suggest grinding more of a gradual taper on the tip of your tungsten, it will help the gas flow surrounding the weld pool, and let you turn up the flow rate a bit.

hope that helps a bit
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Great info, thanks very much!!
 
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