Question concerning silver cars

GOLDENPONY · May 11, 2005

I will be ordering a new '06 GT 'vert soon. I would like to order Satin Silver but have always heard silver cars oxidize badly. I bought an '85 GT new and it did. Are the new clear coat paints better in that area now? I am drooling over the image of a satin silver 'vert with the red accent interior.

300bhp/ton · May 11, 2005

I think your 85 rusted beacue of crap metal and build quality not the colour.

Light colours tend to show up rust due to the colour contrast but they shouldn't rust any quicker.

vacooley · May 11, 2005

I had no problems with my '99 BMW. "Titanium Silver" and it looked great with a good hand-washing when I traded it in last month. I did not baby the finish either. It did look 'oxidized' when it got dirty though.

I think that clearcoat paints kind if break some of the old axioms.

GOLDENPONY · May 11, 2005

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300bhp/ton said:
I think your 85 rusted beacue of crap metal and build quality not the colour.

Light colours tend to show up rust due to the colour contrast but they shouldn't rust any quicker.

No, rust wasn't the problem-the paint just went flat even though I kept it waxed.

Z GT · May 11, 2005

GOLDENPONY said:
... I would like to order Satin Silver but have always heard silver cars oxidize badly....Are the new clear coat paints better in that area now? :

I was worried about the exact same thing when my wife wanted a Silver Focus ZX3. She wanted that color badly so we went ahead and got it. That was in 2001. I realize it's only been 4 years, but no problem so far. It gets waxed twice a year (spring and fall) and still looks like new.

I do know what your talking about though. Look at most silver cars that are older and many are oxidized badly -- seems like silver is/was worse than other colors in this regard. BUT, no problem with ours so far.

sacrstang · May 11, 2005

I was washing my stang last week and I noticed a small little tiny spec of rust on the hood. I had no idea what it was and how it got there. Is this something that happens on the silvers ? this is my first silver car. I would think a brand new car would not have something like this on it. I may have to make my first trip to the dealer and find out what in the heck is going on. This car has been living in the garage majority of the time since I got it.

topless beach · May 11, 2005

I had a silver Audi, and didn't take very good care of the paint. It looked very good till the day we parted ways. Silver is also a great color when it's not clean--it just doesn't show dirt like a lot of colors do. Check out the pix of BlueOval's silver vert-looks great.

66 BLAKE 96 · May 11, 2005

300bhp/ton said:
I think your 85 rusted beacue of crap metal and build quality not the colour.

Light colours tend to show up rust due to the colour contrast but they shouldn't rust any quicker.

LOL, a sweeping BS generalization, and you missed the point.

Oxidized: meaning the clear coat went to hell, not rust. Must be the language barrier.

Mrgreen94gt · May 11, 2005

It's the quality of the paint and clear coat that determines it's longevity and durability, along with proper maintenance, of course. The color is irrelevant.

Infinity · May 11, 2005

66 BLAKE 96 said:
LOL, a sweeping BS generalization, and you missed the point.

Oxidized: meaning the clear coat went to hell, not rust. Must be the language barrier.

He was talking about an 85 that probably wasn't even clearcoated. Newer paint formulations and clearcoat prevent this. I just called and asked my wife's uncle who works at DuPont. He had one of the chemical engineers call me back. Real nice guy who seemed to be a real car nut.

bleedingvayneAD · May 11, 2005

Ooooooor, all of you could stop worrying and just get yellow.

GTJade · May 11, 2005

ttown · May 12, 2005

Ford's had crap non-stick paint as long as I can remember and from what I've seen silver is a little worse. It usually starts on the hood, they've claimed that it's a pollution issue in Detroit caused by "acid rain". I don't know if I buy it but until I see them change the formula from the last gen mustangs I'd say be careful.

Ford's got special paint that can't be matched by any company but them it's top secret and that allows them to charge big bucks for it.

66 BLAKE 96 · May 12, 2005

Infinity02Zinc said:
He was talking about an 85 that probably wasn't even clearcoated. Newer paint formulations and clearcoat prevent this. I just called and asked my wife's uncle who works at DuPont. He had one of the chemical engineers call me back. Real nice guy who seemed to be a real car nut.

I'm pretty sure an 85 did use a two stage (base coat/clear coat) paint, though I surely wouldn't argue that it was a superior two stage. Most early clear coats had problems with oxidation, regardless of manufacturer. He wasn't talking about paint he was talking about "crap metal and build quality" which to me is laughable and rust, which was not the subject of the thread.

ttown said:
Ford's got special paint that can't be matched by any company but them it's top secret and that allows them to charge big bucks for it.

There's a term for information like this. Given that this is a family site, I'll use the abbreviation. BS. I'll let you translate that for yourself.

ttown · May 12, 2005

66 BLAKE 96 said:
There's a term for information like this. Given that this is a family site, I'll use the abbreviation. BS. I'll let you translate that for yourself.

I agree it's obvious you never went to a paint shop for a touch up. Ford has a thing called a paient on their paints and process. My buddy that owns a paint shop informed me you shouldn't try to match Ford paints. I think I'll trust the pros that do this for a living if you don't mind.

66 BLAKE 96 · May 12, 2005

ttown said:
I agree it's obvious you never went to a paint shop for a touch up. Ford has a thing called a paient on their paints and process. My buddy that owns a paint shop informed me you shouldn't try to match Ford paints. I think I'll trust the pros that do this for a living if you don't mind.

Any paint color (as long as it is not a unique process such as mystic or mystichrome) can be matched. My buddy that is a painter told me so. I bet my buddy can beat up your buddy, lol. I assume you meant "patent". They can patent a process, or a name, but a color can be mixed to match. Period. Are you suggesting that any paint shop couldn't match Torch Red, or Windveil Blue or any other 05 color? If so, you are grossly misinformed.

ttown · May 12, 2005

66 BLAKE 96 said:
Any paint color (as long as it is not a unique process such as mystic or mystichrome) can be matched. My buddy that is a painter told me so. I bet my buddy can beat up your buddy, lol. I assume you meant "patent". They can patent a process, or a name, but a color can be mixed to match. Period. Are you suggesting that any paint shop couldn't match Torch Red, or Windveil Blue or any other 05 color? If so, you are grossly misinformed.

Well you can't argure with a "know it all". I guess Ford should just pull all those $300 to $400 a quart paints off the market. You can never match a paint exactly EVER, that's why they feather your whole bumper for a blend on a 1 inch scratch. You don't just buy TR and think your not going to have to try and match it and you sure don't want to start way out in left field as a painter that does quality work at the rates these folks charge.

Sounds like your friend paints at his house and those paint jobs you usually get exacly what you pay for.

66 BLAKE 96 · May 12, 2005

ttown said:
I guess Ford should just pull all those $300 to $400 a quart paints off the market.

Why would they do that? They obviously have some portion of the market snowed into thinking they need to pay that price when they don't.

ctfordguy · May 12, 2005

A friend of mine had a mid 80s F150. It had two tone paint, blue/silver. The silver peeled off the truck after a few years. The blue was no problem. Ford would not cover under warranty because he was over the miles.

lethaljay · May 12, 2005

sacrstang said:
I was washing my stang last week and I noticed a small little tiny spec of rust on the hood. I had no idea what it was and how it got there. Is this something that happens on the silvers ? this is my first silver car. I would think a brand new car would not have something like this on it. I may have to make my first trip to the dealer and find out what in the heck is going on. This car has been living in the garage majority of the time since I got it.

This could possibly come from that "Rail Dust" you car was exposed to during transport. If your dealer did not give your car a nice wash when they received it, tiny particles of rust off of the rails would just sit on your paint and would start to eat away at it.

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