when i first got my car, a cab turned into it. so the body shop installed a new door and fender. if you look at the hood and fender which was painted right next to each other, it looks very different. the hood is much smoother and more reflective, and the fender is more dull. i have noticed that the paint looks like it doesnt have as much clearcoat on it, and it is also not as smooth as the rest of the car. lets say a bird dumps on my car. if it gets onto any of the original paint, then it comes off when i wash it. if it gets onto the door or fender which was painted, then it leaves stains which wont come off. i had the the car detailed and now there is a splat on the fender which they say cannot be removed. the detailer told me that the body shop used crappy paint, and didnt paint it well which is why it has the orange peel look compared to the rest of the car. they told me this will keep happening because of the crappy paint. so i went to the body shop, and he said that he can get the stains out. he said the reason this happenes is because the paint is not completely dry, it takes 6 months for it to dry. it has been about 3. he also said he could try and sand it so it will be smoother. the detailers told me that the door and fender should be repainted, but the body shop guy says that he can get it looking better without re painting. i have gotten an opinion from another body shop and he said he could get it almost exactly to the way it came from the factory. is this guy lying to me about the paint drying? should i tell him he has to re paint the door and fender? i do not know much about body work. i dont want the car to start looking like crap in a year because it wasnt painted right. geico did pay for the repairs, since it wasnt my fault. should i let them know what is going on? i am getting so sick of this im about to just pay someone to re paint it, i have gone back and forth to this body shop like 5 times already. this is a body shop that is used by a ford dealership. someone help me out before i go drop a grand to get it re painted.
question for someone who knows about painting
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iskwezm
10 Year Member
almost all paints with orange peel can be wet sanded and buffed for a smoother appearance,but it really depends on how much paint/clear was put down.As far as the the color difference,thats not going to change,what you see is what you get.Most paints have many different codes and should be color matched,not just sprayed by the code.Paint does take a few months to completely cure,but that should be why it did what it did.I buffed mine out a week after we shot it.Before you put any money out,call your insurance and tell them your unhappy with the work,if that doesnt go anywhere,call the bodyshop that did the work and tell them you want it fixed right or your going to notify the BAR association
iskwezm
10 Year Member
if its just a bit dull,you can buff it out and it will have a shiny finish,but my buddy had his car done from Macco and they rubbed it out the paint dulled in about 3 months.Im pretty sure your body shop used better paint though.Give them a chance to fix it,but still notify the insurance so they dont say you took too long.official_style said:
iskwezm
10 Year Member
the correct way to blend a panel is to shootthe replaced panels and then "fog in " to the next panel so the there is no sharp line where its separated.But as long is the color is dead on the finish can be manipulated to match,might have to rub the other panels nearby to get the same smoothness.official_style said:
Yeah oskwezm nailed it on the head, ask the body shop if they baked the paint after painting if because if so its a lie that you cant buff it untill 6 months. If they didnt bake the paint then you do need to wait about 6 months with out waxing it and when you wash it be extra careful because the clearcoat has not harden all the way. Good Luck
i was told that it was baked. i think what happened is they used cheap single stage paint. a few people have said it doesnt look like bc/cc. my spoiler was also painted with this cheap paint, so i am going to ask for that to be repainted too, since it was installed at the same time. insurance company has been notified, so if he wont re paint in bc/cc then i am going to the BBB thing.
iskwezm
10 Year Member
hey thanks,i thought i was talking outta my a$$shane93nc said:
J/K I took a couple classes and used to watch the body shop when i worked at Ford to learn
I also shot my car over after my painter screwed me.Nice to know the fumes didnt get to me
Turbo92PGT
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if the paint is faded, it could be the clear coat dying back, and looking kind of "hazy" that or when they wetsanded the dirt nibs out of it and minor orange peel they buffed it with too coarse of a compound or didnt' buff enough. Theres a million different things that could have happened. For a good blend they should have basecoated about half of your hood and half of your quarter panel and cleared both of these. This will allow you to have nothing to "compare" the repainted areas to. Because it will all "blend" together and look like its supposed to be that way. Who knows what they did though. If you have any paint questions just let me know! Good luck with it
If the insurance company used the shop thats the shop they will continue to use. Most likely the are a drp shop which is direct repair program. it eliminates two estimates and you go directly to a shop for everything. first of all the color should match. like others have said there is many variences of each color. it is also up to the shop to make the vehicle look as good or better than it did before it was wrecked. If the vehicle is new it should not be sprayed with single stage. There is only a few vehicles still produced with single stage paint and its black and foreign. I have done bodywork for 8 years and some shops just try to make a buck by using cheap materials. But because of drp you might be stuck with the same shop. As far as baking a clear coat finish most shops will do it. It usually takes 90 days for all of the solvents to come out of the finish. Thats why you dont want to wax the area for 90 or so because it will trap the solvents in the paint not letting it breath.
