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QUESTIONS : TFS 1 cam and 1.7 rockers

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fiveoho

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original plan was 306 ( see sig ) with AFR 185s and TFS 2 cam. if i stick to the 306 idea, i may go to the TFS 1. apparently the TFS 2 is too big.

if i use the TFS 1 with 1.7 rockers, will that increase the duration and lift? if so, how much? increase power? essentially making it a bigger cam? more lope?

or does the 1.7s "tone it down" ? making the the duration/lift less?

next question: is the 1.7s physically bigger than 1.6s? if so, will the 1.7s clear stock height valve covers??


thanks guys
 

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the equation to get the lift for 1.7 rockers vice 1.6 is as follows

advertised lift / 1.6 x 1.7 = New lift w/1.7 rockers

so if my lift was 564 with 1.6 rockers, i would divide 564 by 1.6 which is 352 and then multiply it by 1.7 which equates to 599
 
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http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,32.0.html

the 1.7 is the same size as the 1.6
 

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More lift, wont affect lope, more low end power then stage 2 will offer
 
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So AFR 185s with a street heat intake and a TFS 1 cam? Kinda odd combo. I dont see the needed for the AFR 185s on that car.
 

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i concur the heads are too large
 

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Its not that the stg 2 cam is "too big" b/c thats far from it. Its that its wrong for the application.

Go custom to really make those heads work good. Though a street heat intake will restrict them from working as good as they can.

Those Heads are perfect for a 306.
 
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I see nothing wrong with the head choice, there are some other things that dont add up though
 

fiveoho

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88Stang331 said:
the equation to get the lift for 1.7 rockers vice 1.6 is as follows

advertised lift / 1.6 x 1.7 = New lift w/1.7 rockers

so if my lift was 564 with 1.6 rockers, i would divide 564 by 1.6 which is 352 and then multiply it by 1.7 which equates to 599
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preciate the help 88Stang331
 

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No problem, remember to take that into account when taking into consideration Piston/Valve clearance.
 

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the TFS 1 lift with 1.6 is INT.499 EX .510 and the same cam with 1.7 the lift goes up to INT .530 EX .541 the iddle is going to be the same but maybe you get a little more RPM's and physically they look the same!
 

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aleborjas said:
the TFS 1 lift with 1.6 is INT.499 EX .510 and the same cam with 1.7 the lift goes up to INT .530 EX .541 the iddle is going to be the same but maybe you get a little more RPM's and physically they look the same!
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Yes, changing the rockers changes nothing but the lift of the intake/exhaust.
 

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still say heads are much bigger then any other part of that combo
 

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thanks again aleborjas and 88Stang331
 

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LOL no thanks to me. I'm too negative I guess
 
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donsbad68 said:
LOL no thanks to me. I'm too negative I guess
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The other guys answered his questions, you and I talked about the heads not being right.
 
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