Radiator and water pump - Help

#21
allcarfan said:
I think the best way to do this is to get an early style cover, early style pump, and the extra long radiator hose and run it along the bottom of the front support. At least then, I KNOW it will be right. Im sure I can tuck it away...or even fab a piece of polished stainless steel to go over it.

I wonder if I can get a radiator shop to braze on a 90 degree angle lower intlet/outlet rather than the 180 degree one. Then, I wouldnt have to have such a severe bend in the radiator hose.

Opinions?


Oh...WORTH...if you have an early style cover from the 60s...Id like to take it off your hands. We could easily work a trade for the other stuff im doing for you. Shoot me a PM if you have one.
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I've probubly got one, but I'll need to know what you need. You've got about 1000 suggestions here, so what are you after? Actually give me a few minutes, let me see what I have here, I may have the whole setup for either side. BRB.
 
#22
OK, the only one I have that is totally complete and still on the engine is as follows;

WP inlet is on the left, so you can use a staggered rad
PS is high on the left
Alternator is on the right, it's the LArge alternator.
Timing marks are on the right, so you can use them.

it has an electronic distributor in it,with the 2 piece cap, so I'm guessing its late 70's early 80's.

other than that I just have a bunch of covers and brackets loose, so I'd have to have a picture or a good discription to figure out what you want.
 
#25
D.Hearne said:
I've got the pic of one, don't have the cover any longer though, sorry. I can email the pic. can't make out the casting # though.
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UH OH, it appears my old brain has failed me, I lookd at the pic you showed me for the 67 and it doesn't use the water pump with the backing plate. Any Idea when they changed? All the covers I have found here take the backing plate pumps. I have one that is identical to the 67 but with the backing plate, the dipstick and the pointer are the same.
 
#26
i figured it out....

I am going to use a 65-66 standard Timing Chain Cover (when I find one), use a standard water pump with the out let to the passenger side. Use a staggered aluminum radiator with the outlet on the lower drivers side area.

The exhaust shop here said they could bend a piece of 1.5" ID aluminum in the shape of an S. SO...the straight outlet on the drivers side would have a small piece of radiator hose attached to it. Then attached would be the S shape tube. It would slide into the other side of that small (3"?) or so piece of radiator hose, then a 90 degree turn toward the passemnger side, run the length of the radiator then a 90 degree turn toward the firewall RIGHT where the stock outlet is on the radiator. THEN, I will be able to use a STOCK radiator hose too!

I hope you all followed that. the ONLY piece I would need that isnt 'normal' for that engine is the S Bent piece of pipe.

Opinions?
 
#27
allcarfan said:
i figured it out....

I am going to use a 65-66 standard Timing Chain Cover (when I find one), use a standard water pump with the out let to the passenger side. Use a staggered aluminum radiator with the outlet on the lower drivers side area.

The exhaust shop here said they could bend a piece of 1.5" ID aluminum in the shape of an S. SO...the straight outlet on the drivers side would have a small piece of radiator hose attached to it. Then attached would be the S shape tube. It would slide into the other side of that small (3"?) or so piece of radiator hose, then a 90 degree turn toward the passemnger side, run the length of the radiator then a 90 degree turn toward the firewall RIGHT where the stock outlet is on the radiator. THEN, I will be able to use a STOCK radiator hose too!

I hope you all followed that. the ONLY piece I would need that isnt 'normal' for that engine is the S Bent piece of pipe.

Opinions?
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Use stainless exhaust tubing instead of aluminum, it'll last longer.No worries about corrosion. Looks as good as aluminum too. :nice:
 
#28
WORTH said:
UH OH, it appears my old brain has failed me, I lookd at the pic you showed me for the 67 and it doesn't use the water pump with the backing plate. Any Idea when they changed? All the covers I have found here take the backing plate pumps. I have one that is identical to the 67 but with the backing plate, the dipstick and the pointer are the same.
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I'll have to look again, ( i still have the water pump for that one) but I think it did use a backing plate with that timing cover. Don't have the timing cover though, sold it to someone here on SN I believe. I know there were 2 different covers for the early small blocks, one was for a cast iron pump ( the Hi-po cover I think) and the other used an aluminum pump ( std 289's mostly) I believe all the mid to late 60's used the Hipo style cover and pump. The HP Ford interchange book is kind of vague on this with the covers, but apparently the pre 64's had the different cover. The cover needed for the iron pump is listed as a C4AZ-6019-B, but thats the part # not the casting #.
 
#29
D.Hearne said:
I'll have to look again, ( i still have the water pump for that one) but I think it did use a backing plate with that timing cover. Don't have the timing cover though, sold it to someone here on SN I believe. I know there were 2 different covers for the early small blocks, one was for a cast iron pump ( the Hi-po cover I think) and the other used an aluminum pump ( std 289's mostly) I believe all the mid to late 60's used the Hipo style cover and pump. The HP Ford interchange book is kind of vague on this with the covers, but apparently the pre 64's had the different cover. The cover needed for the iron pump is listed as a C4AZ-6019-B, but thats the part # not the casting #.
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the one I have that uses the backing plate is casting # C50F-6059-A

YOur welcome to it if it is the one you need.
 
#34
allcarfan said:
Hearne....

if that TCC is from a 65-66 car and the HV water pump will bolt to it....and the outlet on the pump points toward the passenger side...PM ME if you want to sell both.

Shane
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I'll bring the digital to the shop in the AM and snap a shot of the one I think you need. I had it stashed with all my 65-66 stuff, so it should be correct.
 
#35
allcarfan,

The shiny TCC below is a standard 66 timing cover. It is for use with a water pump with a backing plate. The one on the right (for comparison) is from a '90 roller block.

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#37
I have a Griffin Direct Fit rad, but they sold me the wrong model where the Outlets were staggered instead of on the same side. I had NO time to wait for the proper one to come in stock, so I went with it. I used a Flex rad hose from NAPA for the lower hose, and suprisingly it fit just fine, it's free from hitting anything and works allright. The only downside is that those flex hoses are pretty expensive.
 
#38
D.Hearne said:
That one you say is for a 66 is different than the one I had pulled from the 67 Stang I had. Your's looks more like a 70-up cover. What's the casting # on that one? Can't make it out.
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I'll have to check when I get home. I would like to see a picture of your timing cover for comparison.
 
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