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stang22

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GroverDill said:
Does the rear coilover take away from the max tire width?
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I think it would if you went over 275 or so, but I see plenty of room and I run 255X40X17's. I know taking the quad shock out free's a little bit, but C/O does take a little so it probably even's out.

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do you happen to have the directions for installation? I have a kit but no instructions were in the box. Im using kyb adjustable shocks. My question is: do i have to remove anything on the shock? Like the shock cover so I can slip the coil over on it? Thanks!
 

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GroverDill said:
Does the rear coilover take away from the max tire width?
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No. On the contrary, coilovers utilize a smaller diameter spring than stock and with them you no longer need the quad shocks which are the real limiting factor.
 

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mustang90 said:
do you happen to have the directions for installation? I have a kit but no instructions were in the box. Im using kyb adjustable shocks. My question is: do i have to remove anything on the shock? Like the shock cover so I can slip the coil over on it? Thanks!
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Yes, you have cut/gring the dust cover off of it. Be sure you don't hit the shock shaft when you do.

Hope this pic will help you out. Let me know, I will do whatever I can.

Tim

 

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looks good dude, would i be able to use these with my tokico illumina rear shocks
 

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blown1989saleen said:
looks good dude, would i be able to use these with my tokico illumina rear shocks
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Each kit has a maximum diameter shock they can use. I think mine was 1.8 inches. The company you buy it from should tell you which ones you can and can't use on it.

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how do you get the coil over kit over the rear shock? There is that shroud on there, does it remove?
 

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that is clean mine, wise investment
 

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delete...
 

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blown1989saleen said:
looks good dude, would i be able to use these with my tokico illumina rear shocks
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MM makes a kit for the Tokico Illumina's.

mustang90- I don't know of anyone who makes a kit for the KYB's, and I don't think it would be a good idea to try based on that. The idea behind them is to get a correct spring rate for the shocks you're using. Also, some shocks are better built, and more suited to being used for coilovers than others are. Don't get me wrong, I have stood up for KYB's in here a lot in the past as a great bang for the buck, but I don't know that they'd be up to this job. While normally they only have to control the wieght of the car, in the coilover configuration the shock body has to support all the weight of the car as well. They may work, but knowing what a bargain they are, I don't think I'd risk it.
 

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MM makes a kit for the Tokico Illumina's.

mustang90- I don't know of anyone who makes a kit for the KYB's, and I don't think it would be a good idea to try based on that. The idea behind them is to get a correct spring rate for the shocks you're using. Also, some shocks are better built, and more suited to being used for coilovers than others are. Don't get me wrong, I have stood up for KYB's in here a lot in the past as a great bang for the buck, but I don't know that they'd be up to this job. While normally they only have to control the wieght of the car, in the coilover configuration the shock body has to support all the weight of the car as well. They may work, but knowing what a bargain they are, I don't think I'd risk it.
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wrong post sorry
 

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Im running kyb struts with coil overs, no problem? I guess i would have to agree though with the kyb shock. What do you recomend? I have the grantelli motorsport coil over kit for the rear. Also, do I have to drill the whole where the support bolts onto the rear so the bolt goes through?
 

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I wonder why the kyb's wouldn't hold up? I talked to Jack at muscle motors and he said they are fine? Infact, 75% of the kits he sells have the kyb setup in them? Im running kyb struts on my 94 with coil overs and have no problems? Daily driver too! The kyb shocks with coil overs are going on my 90 which is a show car and barely see's the street? I have the kyb adjustable struts and coil overs on the front of my 90 gt too?
 

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Hm. If it's being done without problems, I don't have any objections. My concern is only that KYB is a cheaper quality part, and doesn't have a great projected lifespan anyway; nevermind the added stress of using it as a coilover. (as aposed to Bilstiens, which have a lifetime garantee) A coilover conversion is one of those things I look at as an investment that should last the life of your car- but that's just me. You can buy and replace a full set of KYB's three times for the price of my Bil's, so I guess it's all in how you look at it. If you are using the KYB AGX model, that's a little better- but still not something I'd be thrilled with (not that anybody should care). I usually recommend Bil's, Koni's, and Tokicos with coilovers- pretty much in that order. The Koni's or Bil's I put on the same level; it is purpose, not quality that makes the decision between them. For someone looking for a more budget minded part, the Tokico's are great in both the adjustable and fixed models. I don't think I had to drill anything on mine for the rear conversion, everything bolted right up. However, if you aren't getting (or don't have) a panhard, in the MM setup you'd need another perch. Yours may be different though. This may sound like a stupid question, but what do the instructions say?
 

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It would be nice if the instructions came with the kit! Im trying to piece it together with my knowledge. I probably will use the kyb agx shocks, since I already have them and have had them sitting around for 1 year (beyond returnable). The car will probably see 1000 miles a year so Im not concerned about that. I have the grantelli motorsport rear coil over kit though
 

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mustang90 said:
It would be nice if the instructions came with the kit! Im trying to piece it together with my knowledge.
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Sux to be you. Sorry. Why don't you give Grantelli a call? If anybody would know, I hope they would. If there's one thing I've learned, it's that everybody does it a little differently.
 

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It would be nice if the instructions came with the kit! Im trying to piece it together with my knowledge. I probably will use the kyb agx shocks, since I already have them and have had them sitting around for 1 year (beyond returnable). The car will probably see 1000 miles a year so Im not concerned about that. I have the grantelli motorsport rear coil over kit though
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What is your email address? I have the instructions and will send them to you.

Tim
 

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What did you do to make the area around the tire so clean and shiny was it paint? If so what kind and were did you get it?
 

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Also nice jack stand set i got the same one from sears about 3 months ago. It works great.
 

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Black 93 Fox said:
What did you do to make the area around the tire so clean and shiny was it paint? If so what kind and were did you get it?
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Believe it or not, it was just the factory coating or whatever they put in there. You can clean all of that stuff up pretty nicely. I just cleaned them up and spray it with a little WD-40. You can clean it up and paint it if you want, just watch for overspray. I don't paint anything near my car because of over spray. On showroom black, everything shows up.

Just buy a can of gloss black and clean it up and paint it. Not sure how good it would stick, but it is worth a try. The front really isn't worth painting because it is plastic, but I am sure you could do the same thing to it as the rear if you wanted.

Tim
 
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