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Rear Suspension ? : LCA or Relocation Bracket

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Maza4ever14

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Hello all:

No I have quite a dilemma. Right now I'm on the ropes about my rear suspension. I've decided on the J&M Adj. Upper Control Arm and the J&M Lower Control Arms. Now I then stumbled upon the Relocation Bracket for our stock control arms.

So my questions to you are this: Should I just buy the bracket an keep the stock lower control arms? Should I just buy the J&M lower control arms? Or should i just go ahead and buy the bracket AND the J&M lower control arms? Would that even help me out even more or just be over kill on the car and my wallet?

Right now, my suspension only consists of Eibach Pro Kit.

Any help would be greatly appriciated!

Thanks in advance!
 

anthony05gt

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I'd say you should decide what you want like more noise and clunks with the aftermarket LCA's or do you want to keep it a more quiet ride. I installed a set of GT500 LCA's and that got rid of my wheel hop with street tires. I will be installing drag radials soon so we'll see if the wheel hop stays gone. I have a new set of Steeda relocation brackets sitting in a box which I may end up using if the wheel hop returns with drag radials on the car. Keep in mind, the relocation brackets must use only the lowest adjustment with stock LCA's. There's no room to use the other holes in the brackets because the control arms are taller than aftermarket ones.
 

Bad92GT

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anthony05gt said:
I'd say you should decide what you want like more noise and clunks with the aftermarket LCA's or do you want to keep it a more quiet ride. I installed a set of GT500 LCA's and that got rid of my wheel hop with street tires. I will be installing drag radials soon so we'll see if the wheel hop stays gone. I have a new set of Steeda relocation brackets sitting in a box which I may end up using if the wheel hop returns with drag radials on the car. Keep in mind, the relocation brackets must use only the lowest adjustment with stock LCA's. There's no room to use the other holes in the brackets because the control arms are taller than aftermarket ones.
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I have spherical/poly BMR's, no clunks/noises here. I prefer not to run relocation brackets, i don't like adjusting suspension geometry in anyway, purely because theres other ways around it then just moving something. My BMR's kickass, no wheel hop. Noise increased a LITTLE bit, but no clunks and noises after install.
 

xtweakerx

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steeda upper and lower control arms FTW!!!

plus their pretty blue !
 

DarkFireGT

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If it's one or the other, get the LCA's. The stiffer bushings really help. The stock control arms suck. And contrary to what Ford Racing says, the GT500 control arms have the exact same bushings as the GT ones. They even have the same part number. The stamped steel is just a bit stronger.
 

ct07gt

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I have the Roush billet LCA's and they have no clunks or anything like that. They weren't that expensive, $279 shipped. They were easy to install and look good. I have no problems with wheel hop at all.
 

bigcat

start with the upper hole, and if more traction is
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i have the J&M lower arms and the relocation brackets (plus most of the rest of the S197 stuff they sell). like darkfire said, if it is one or the other, LCAs first. i noticed ZERO increase in noise with these. they have a unique 3 piece bushing that really makes them great! no wheel hop, no creaks, squeaks, or road noise. the brackets will help you launch you car a bit better. if you dont see the track, you may not notice the difference.
 

anthony05gt

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DarkFireGT said:
If it's one or the other, get the LCA's. The stiffer bushings really help. The stock control arms suck. And contrary to what Ford Racing says, the GT500 control arms have the exact same bushings as the GT ones. They even have the same part number. The stamped steel is just a bit stronger.
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Yeah, I had that conversation months ago about the exact same part number molded in the bushings. Somebody said that they may just use the same mold, but the GT500 arms did eliminate the hop for me with Pilot Sport tires anyway.

I like the sound of the bushing design on the arms bigcat has. Once I get the drag radials on it could change everything.
 

DarkFireGT

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Me too. I'm worried about wear... but my BMRs are creaking pretty bad. Or maybe it's the D-Specs. I dunno, but I'm squeakin all to hell.
 

Maza4ever14

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well imma bite the bullet and order the UCA and the LCAs tonite. The 20" rims i have now dont really have wheel hop but when i got to the track i do go to the stock fan blades with the BFGs. Maybe its time for some ET streets as well
 

andyukok442@aim

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I'm about to install the the BMR relocation brackets and BMR upper adj. control arm, I already have Steeda LCA's and Panhard bar but have very bad traction after lowering using Eibach Sportline Springs, but I do love the low profile.

So my question is, anybody here lowered too, especially as low as the Sportline Kit takes the car (around 2 inches rear) as some owners here are saying they have no wheel hop or traction problems.
 

NastyStang113

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I'm about to do the billet BMRs but can't decide if I want to do the relocation brackets.
 

andyukok442@aim

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NastyStang113 said:
I'm about to do the billet BMRs but can't decide if I want to do the relocation brackets.
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I have just read a lot lately and it's said that if you're lowered and have lost traction because the geometry is off then Relocation brackets are apparently the way to go. I ordered mine together with an adj. upper control arm today.

How's traction on your Stang? Are you lowered?
 

NastyStang113

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I'm lowered with Steeda sport springs. I know I really should get the brackets but want to see how it is without them. I'm just full bolt ons right now so I have very little hop but once I add the Saleen blower, I'm sure that's going to change.
 

andyukok442@aim

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NastyStang113 said:
I'm lowered with Steeda sport springs. I know I really should get the brackets but want to see how it is without them. I'm just full bolt ons right now so I have very little hop but once I add the Saleen blower, I'm sure that's going to change.
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Same here just bolt-ons no wheel hop either just a loss of traction when I dump that clutch. I realize that I'll never get perfect traction without slicks on the track but it's well bad right now.

I'm installing the brackets and upper adj. control arm in the next week of two and will definitely let this thread know if I notice a difference.
 

kooldawg6

mine works really well and can take a fair amount
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The relocation brackets will help correct geometry on lowered cars and the aftermarket LCAs will help by using better bushings. I went with both a few weeks ago. Along with a set of MTs I had zero traction problems at the track! Now I just need more RPM/power
 
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