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Removing spout connector for Drag Racing

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Dmarstroker

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Just remembered that a while back I thought I read somewhere that you can remove the spout connector when you drag race so it can give you full timing advance. Sorry if I sound ignorant, its just one of those things I had to throw out there.
 

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I thought with the spout removed your PCM will not advance or retard your timing?
 

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I'm clueless I know I need to start reading up (A LOT) more though. I think I read this in the Ford fuel injection and electronic engine control manual I have. Maybe I just heard this somewhere
 

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will make your car run like crap! and it will ping/ and get detination! very bad... i remember after setting my timing and forgot to put it back in... wasnt very good at all with it out! lol
 

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Guys have been known to set their desired total timing with the SPOUT out and then they leave it (they do not reinstall the connector). That way they're running at the same amount of advance all the time.

I ran for part of a summer like this (on the 94) and it did alright. It wasn't ideal but I was workin on some upgrades and couldnt deal with 45* of total timing.
 

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HISSIN50 said:
Guys have been known to set their desired total timing with the SPOUT out and then they leave it (they do not reinstall the connector). That way they're running at the same amount of advance all the time.

I ran for part of a summer like this (on the 94) and it did alright. It wasn't ideal but I was workin on some upgrades and couldnt deal with 45* of total timing.
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Do you think it would be "okay" to run it like that only at the track?
 

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Do you think it would be "okay" to run it like that only at the track?
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I'm not sure why someone would do it unless there's an issue (like detonation - as can happen with forced induction).
In general, when somene runs locked timing, their total timing ends up being lower than it might have been if they let the computer do its thing. Plus these cars dont have too much total timing as it is.
In my case, I did it because the 94 uses a load-based processor and I needed to limit the low-load timing.
 

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I run locked timing at 36 degrees on my drag car (non efi) as it gives more consistent et's for drag racing. I imagine you could do the same thing by pulling the spout and setting the initial timing to say 36 or whatever you want the total timing to be. I don't think that this would be something you would want to on a street car though.
I have seen where some turbo guys have set the timing at like 25 total and left the spout out because they had not done any computer tuning just to make sure they did not get any detonation. In those cases it was a temporary fix to get by until they had the computers tuned.
 

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Thanks for the feedback guys, its starting to make more sense to me
 

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If you pull the spout out and leave timing at 14 degrees, your car will be slow!!


I remember one day at the track i was racing and i bumped my timing from 10 to 14 degrees. I forgot to put the spout back in. All day long i was running 15.0-15.2 and wondering what the hell was wrong. I went home pissed.

Next day as i was cleaning up the car, i found the damn spout connector sitting on my radiator. I felt stupid.


Usually when guys lock timing, they set it to 34 degrees or something like that
 
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