If we're going to be so precise/concise, it would appear that every entry on this post is quite legible. Some seem to be lacking in the grammar dept. Why bust balls about grammer and spelling? As long at the point is made, who cares? Did you ever think that of the 50000+ members on Stangnet, it's possible that maybe one or 2 aren't the most 'educated' individuals in the world? Some of the best mechanics I know never went beyond 10th grade. Does that mean they shouldn't be on here giving help where they can? BS like this is why a lot of people don't even bother with the boards.
nah, i wasnt talkin about in this thread, but in other threads. i was reading a few of them and couldnt even understand what people were trying to say. its probably because people get used to 'chatting' and use internet short hand or whatever you want to call it
Lets be realistic guys, there is a WHOLE lot of exaggeration going on here. He posted the question obviously because he's never done it before. therefore, assuming he's got some good mechanical skills, the first time is gonna take him an entire sat and and entire sun, 8-10 hours a day. The first two times, it took me an entire weekend. 5 hours is almost complete bs. I'm really, really good doing this now. Maybe if I was having a marathon contest I could pull 5 hours fairly easily, but then again, I've done probably close to 15 clutch jobs on mustangs already.
stang2841 said:
no offense or nothing mob but ur posting alot for not knowing much
read up on things get a full engine encyclepedia
rebuild cars with friends
hand on experience
u seem like u have a want for car knowledge and im not sure a forum is the best way to get the knowledge you'll get alot of bull****,flames,people who dont know what there talking about and get caught up in name calling etc.....
hands on experience is the best way IMO or go to a local library get a car encyclepedia that shows every aspect of a car how a transmission works, Functions of a clutch, you will see the advantages of porting certain items in like some of your other posts, and other things
I am no expert but i have basic knowledge ive rebuilt legend cars and ive raced them for a while , with that ive replaced clutches, been under cars, saw how everything functions and all the good stuff
not flaming you or making fun i am not a big fan of that just giving you my opinion
I completely and respectfully utterly disagree. Message forums have got to be hands down the best source of information for working on cars and modifying them that I have ever gotten. 2 years or so back, before the internet, I was "ok" at working on cars. I hit the internet, got on just about every mustang board, and now two years later, I would call myself a bonified expert in Many, not all of the fox chassis area. Of course, this was not from reading alone. I would read and ask a million questions, then go home and do the work on my own car. Get stumped?? Ask ten thousand other hard cores who have run into the same problem and can help you get it fixed in no time flat.
I'm gonna say this, and if people get upset, i'm sorry. Stangnet is FAMOUS for their bad tech. I'm not gonna point fingers at all. I suspect this site is comprised of a whole lot of younger people (under 20) who don't have a lot of experience. I didn't like this place a lot at first because everyone was throwing out aweful advice, but I thought that I had a lot to offer, and could help out those who need it, and counterbalance some of the bad tech. there are a LOT of hardcore sites such as foureyedpride.com, and the corral where you can get very, very good tech 9 out of 10 times. Don't get me wrong, I love stangnet very much too.
the biggest point is being smart enough to be able to weed out the bs from the good answers. You can almost always weed out the bad tech, because those who don't know as much can't explain their answers in full detail. You get the hang of knowing who knows what they're doing.
Just my .02. If it were not for message forums, I would be in the dark ages. Message forums allow people to gain off of others experiences. From reading peoples successes and failures, I have gained an easy 10 years + worth of experience, because I am able to go straight out and work on my car, and not duplicate all of the mistakes others have made.
edit: i completely agree that hands on experience is the ONLY way to gain REAL knoweledge. Message forums imo complement hands on experience, and allow you to do it right the first time.
well u are very right, ive never replaced a clutch, i know i cant do it in 5 hours, but i do feel like i can get it done in one day, not two, or at least i hope, he he. i do have a master mechanic living next door to me, so if i get into a huge bind, i guess i could always ask him for help. so what tools do i need to aquire to finish this job in one sitting, i saw where someone was talking about an alighnment tool, and a tool to take out the pilot bearing. is that the only tools i would need besides the basic tools to complete the job, and i still need more ideas for good performace clutches!!!!
Adding more experience to my aresonal. Some hit and totaled my buddy's 89 5.0 vert a couple of months ago. I get the lucky phone call. He picked up a notch, so I get to learn this weekend how to do my first 4 cylinder to v8 conversion, and do a t5 conversion on it too. Woohooo. sorry for the hijacked thread.
tools?? an assortment of metric, AND standard, as well as a few long extensions and a torque wrench, and the clutch alignment tool
HEaders to h pipe will require a 5/8 deep socket with two extensions. Pass side 02 must come off (7/8 wrench) in order to get to the top nut. Rear h pipe nuts I "belive" are 9/16, or 1/2. You'll need a 12 point 12 socket for the driveshaft bolts. In order to get to it though, you'll have to lower the axle down as far as it goes, or you're not getting the socket on those things. Don't forget to torque them to 85 foot pounds using locktite.
By all means, repalace the pilot bearing and rear main. Don't waste your time with a pilot bearing puller. Get yourself some soft clay, or wet paper towels. Shove them in through the center of the pilot bearing, and stick a socket through, and plug the end of the socket, hammer the socket in. Pressure will pop the pilot bearing out. I broke a puller trying to pull it out, and it just wouldn't come.
don't scratch your crank with a screwdriver trying to get the rear main out, or it'll leak, gauranteed. Use a punch, and punch two dents on the old rear main, then take a drill, and drill a small hole on the indented areas. If you don't do it this way, the drill will slip off and scratch the crank. Thread in two small screws into the old rear main, and pull it out. New one simply taps in.
in order to get the top starter bolt out, use a bunch of extensions. you can go in through the front of the engine to access that top bolt. In the old day, I've spent an hour or two trying to get that top bolt out with a wrench.
that's pretty much it for tips and tricks. Don't forget to properly torque everything. If the tranny won't go in that extra inch, get under the damn thing and bench press it in. It only weighs 75 pounds. I have, several times used the bolts to draw it in that extra inch, but if you're not super careful, the input shaft could bind on the pilot bearing and screw things up. Have fun, don't forget the beer.