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Runs 10-15 Min Then Stalls

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Im sure this is a popular thing and seems common but need to get better answer then what im getting. Car starts runs great. 10-15 minutes it will die and will not restart wait an hr or so starts right back up then same thing. Read an found common thing is the ignition switch and upon inspecting sure enough my switch is coming apart, replaced swtich and still does it. Has new aftermaret msd distributor, msd coil, msd TFI control module. Any ideas what else can cause this.. mass air flow?

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Another thread with no details about the vehicle?
 
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sorry again.. 90 mustang 5.0
 

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Don't discount the TFI module simply because it's new. I haven't seen an aftermarket TFI yet that held up as well as the stock unit. If you can get your hands on a known working stock Ford unit, try switching it out and see if it makes a difference.

Beyond that, have you tried running the car for codes?
 
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I have couple friends with foxbodys one of which has a number of these cars im sure I can ask him about borrowing a known working TFI module. Have not scanned for codes yet was going to do that next. Thanks for the help!
 

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MSD (May Suddenly Die) parts have a high failure rate. You have a MSD TFI and Distributor The TFI module & PIP sensor inside are both items that work OK when cold, but tend to fail when they get warm. If you have the original distributor & TFI, I would recommend that you try them instead of the MSD parts.




Dump the codes: Codes may be present even if the Check Engine Light (CEL) isn't on.

Dumping the computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 26-July-2011. Added need to make sure the clutch is pressed when dumping codes.

Codes may be present even if the check engine light hasn’t come on, so be sure to check for them.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Post the codes you get and I will post 86-93 model 5.0 Mustang specific code definitions and fixes. I do not have a complete listing for 94-95 model 5.0 Mustangs at this time.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. On a manual transmission car, be sure to press the clutch to the floor.
Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.





If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems. This is crucial: the same wire that provides the ground to dump the codes provides signal ground for the TPS, EGR, ACT and Map/Baro sensors. If it fails, you will have poor performance, economy and driveablity problems

Some codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off, and clutch (if present) is pressed to the floor, and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Your 86-88 5.0 won't have a working Check Engine Light, so you'll need a test light.
See AutoZone Part Number: 25886 , $10




Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see Equus Digital Ford Code Reader (3145) Equus - Digital Ford Code Reader (3145It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $22-$36.
 
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I have an MSD Pro Billet Distributor and the MSD TFI went to crap within a month of it being installed. Car would backfire and die and would restart after the TFI cooled down. I replaced it with a Motorcraft TFI and have been problem free since.
 
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