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runs rich wont idle after mas air conversion

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  • Start date Start date Jan 25, 2007
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91fourbanger

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as the title says
88 gt did mass air conversion with ford motorsport kit. have to keep idle adjustment around 1000 rpm to keep it running. and it runs really rich blowing smoke out the exaust. anyone have any idea what might be wrong. it runs great on speed density im lost any help would be great thanks in advance
chris
 

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Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great.



See http://www.troublecodes.net/Ford/
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See http://www.mustangworks.com/articles/electronics/eec-iv_codes.html

IF your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.

Codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see http://www.actron.com/product_detail.php?pid=16153 for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see http://www.midwayautosupply.com/pc-7208-90-equus-digital-ford-code-reader-3145.aspx – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
 
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the eeciv doesnt store codes after power and ground have been removed. and it isnt giving any codes now so.....
 

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Check for Insufficient or no voltage from MAF. Dirty MAF element, bad MAF, bad MAF wiring,
missing power to MAF. Check for missing +12 volts on this circuit. Check the two links for a wiring
diagram to help you find the red wire for computer power relay switched +12 volts. Check for 12
volts between the red and black wires on the MAF heater (usually pins A & B). while the connector
is plugged into the MAF. This may require the use of a couple of safety pins to probe the MAF
connector from the back side of it.

There are three parts in a MAF: the heater, the sensor element and the amplifier. The heater heats
the MAF sensor element causing the resistance to increase. The amplifier buffers the MAF output
signal and has a resistor that is laser trimmed to provide an output range compatible with the
computer's load tables.

The MAF element is secured by 2 screws & has 1 wiring connector. To clean the element, remove it
from the MAF housing and spray it down with electronic parts cleaner or non-inflammable brake
parts cleaner (same stuff in a bigger can and cheaper too).

The MAF output varies with RPM which causes the airflow to increase or decease. The increase of
air across the MAF sensor element causes it to cool, allowing more voltage to pass and telling the
computer to increase the fuel flow. A decrease in airflow causes the MAF sensor element to get
warmer, decreasing the voltage and reducing the fuel flow. Measure the MAF output at pins C & D
on the MAF connector (dark blue/orange and tan/light blue) or at pins 50 & 9 on the computer.


At idle = approximately .6 volt
20 MPH = approximately 1.10 volt
40 MPH = approximately 1.70 volt
60 MPH = approximately 2.10 volt

Check the resistance of the MAF signal wiring. Pin D on the MAF and pin 50 on the computer (dark
blue/orange wire) should be less than 2 ohms. Pin C on the MAF and pin 9 on the computer
(tan/light blue wire) should be less than 2 ohms.

There should be a minimum of 10K ohms between either pin C or D on the MAF and ground.

Diagram courtsey of Tmoss and Stang&2birds


See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) & Stang&2Birds (website host)

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/fuel-alt-links-ign-ac.gif

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/88-91eecPinout.gif
 

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well im not sure that it is the maf, we took the maf off of a friends known good running car and it still did the same thing
 
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also this is the ford racing kit with a separate maf wire going to a adapter wirth a kicker off the side for the maf to plug into
 
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