S197 EV6 injectors in Fox Body

tim281

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I have a set of 2005 mustang 24# injectors laying around that I thought might work as a good upgrade in my notch. I found some adapters online that allow EV6 injectors to adapt to an EV1 style wire harness. The injector impedence and size looks interchangable.
http://media.latemodelrestoration.com/downloads/frpp/fuelinjectors.pdf
Has another does this yet on their fox body?
Most S197 owners ditch their 24# injectors when they go forced induction.
The EV6 to EV1 adapters are only like 40.00 dollars....
 
What is your current mods list? Stock injectors are good to 258 flywheel HP witha 15% safety factor.

You wold need an aftermarket MAF calibrated to match the injectors to make it work correctly. The other alternative would be a custom dyno tune & chip. If you choose that route, everytime you make a significant mod, you need a retune.

Injector HP ratings: divide flow rating by .5 and multiply the result by the number of injectors. This uses a 100% duty cycle. These ratings are for naturally aspirated engines.

Example:
19/.5 = 38, 38 x 8 = 304 HP
24/.5 = 48, 48 x 8 = 384 HP
30/.5 = 60, 60 x 8 = 480 HP

The preferred duty cycle is about 85% maximum, so for a safety factor multiply the final figure times .85.

304 HP x .85 = 258 HP
385 HP x .85 = 326 HP
480 HP x .85 = 408 HP

Remember that the above ratings are at 39 PSI. Increasing the pressure will effectively increase the flow rating. Example: a 19 lb injector will flow 24 lbs at 63 PSI, and a 24 lb injector will flow 30 lbs at 63 PSI.

See Automotive Performance Software / Interactive JavaScripts Calculators to get the calculators used in these examples.

Here's the duty cycle explanation. Duty cycle is how much of the time the intake is open the injectors are turned on. The 85% figure means that for 85% of the time the intake valve is open, the injectors are spraying. The idea is that you want some percentage of the duty cycle left over so that you have some room to grow the process.

If you are at 100% and you need more fuel, all you can do is turn up the fuel pressure. That means the whole fuel curve from idle to WOT is affected. Maybe you are already too rich at idle, and turning up the fuel pressure makes it worse. If you had some injector duty cycle left to play with, a custom tune could use that where it is needed. That would not over richen the whole range from idle to WOT.




Diagram courtesy of Tmoss & Stang&2birds
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See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) & Stang&2Birds (website host) for help on 88-95 wiring Mustang FAQ - Engine Information Everyone should bookmark this site.

Ignition switch wiring
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/IgnitionSwitchWiring.gif

Fuel, alternator, A/C and ignition wiring
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/fuel-alt-links-ign-ac.gif

Complete computer, actuator & sensor wiring diagram for 88-91 Mass Air Mustangs
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/88-91_5.0_EEC_Wiring_Diagram.gif

Vacuum diagram 89-93 Mustangs
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/mustangFoxFordVacuumDiagram.jpg

HVAC vacuum diagram
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/Mustang_AC_heat_vacuum_controls.gif

TFI module differences & pinout
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/TFI_5.0_comparison.gif

Fuse box layout
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/MustangFuseBox.gif
 

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Wow! Thanks for all the information, I am reading a lot about fox mustang to get up on the curve so this will help.
The car currently has flowmasters, BBK shorties, Underdrive Pulleys, & K&N air filter. I am planning to add in the BBK catted H-pipe soon to finish opening up the exhaust system. After that, I would like to add the Cobra intake, TB, and a mass air. I was thinking I would upgrade the injectors when I do the mass air. I imagine the old OEM 19# injectors are not flowing like they use to after 100k miles and I do have a set of 14k mileage 2005 24# injectors, but they are EV6 style and I think all I would need is to add some adapters?
Long term plans would be to stay N.A. on the engine and probably do some aluminum heads and very mild cam.

For the mass air's, it looks like C&L and Pro-M are good candidates. The C&L is easy to swap to larger injector sizes since it has the calibration tubes, but it seems like the Pro-M is nice since it is calibrated in a factory environment to a specification. Any preferences between the two?
 
You won't need 24 lb injectors until you start doing things like aftermarket heads and cam. Until then, stick with the 19 lb injectors. The Cobra/Explorer intake, MAF, throttle body exhaust and pulleys are good for a total of maybe 20 real flywheel HP or 30 HP if yo are really lucky.

If you go aftermarket MAF, go Mass Air Systems ( HOME ) the sucessor to Pro-M that went out of business.

Be sure to check out the Useful Technical Thread Index
sticky thread at the top of 5.0 Tech. It is loaded with all kinds of good info on upgrades you can do yourself.

On a budget? do the junkyard upgrade...

Gears - 87-88 T-Bird Turbo Coupe rear axle - disc brakes and 3.55 or 3.73 gears in one package for $125-$300. Add another $100-$200 or so to complete the brake upgrade.

94-95 Mustang GT MAF - $40-$100. It is 70 MM instead of the stock 55 MM on regular stangs built prior to 94. It uses a slip on duct on the side that goes to the throttle body and a 4 bolt flange on the other. You need a flange adapter to fit the stock slip on air ducting that goes to the air box. Wiring plugs right in with no changes. *1 *2

95-97 Ford Explorer intake manifold & throttle body $150-$300. The intake manifold flows 220 CFM +, much better than stock. Throttle body is 65 MM, bigger than the 60 MM on stock stangs. I got a 96 with EGR passages that match the stock setup, so my smog gear works just like factory. You’ll need a 65 MM EGR spacer & new gaskets for $65-$90 so you have a place to mount the EGR & throttle linkage.

3G alternator from 94-95 Mustangs or other Ford. $20-$120. A must have to make the electrical system work like it should or if you have an electric fan. You’ll need a 4 gauge power wire and a 125-135 amp fuse to go with it about $15- $30.

Lincoln MK VIII electric fan -$40-$160. Free up some HP by not having to drive the stock fan. The 3G alternator upgrade is a must have prerequisite before you do the MK VIII fan. You won’t have enough electrical power if you don’t do the 3G upgrade.

Aluminum driveshaft: (courtesy of shawn13) It needs to be from a 92-93-94 Aerostar AWD. It measures 45 ½” center of the front U-joint to center of the rear U-joint. You will need the U-joint, part #PUJ353 from NAPA. The Canadian NAPA pat number is 1-0134BF. It should bolt right up after the U-joint swap.
Note: This driveshaft is not an exact duplicate of the Ford Racing part. It is 3” in diameter while the Ford Racing part is 3.5” in diameter.

*1.) Metal flange adapter Kurtz Kustomz Motorsports, Inc. KKM Buy the TR70 for $44.95. Or spend some time on eBay looking for one that may fit.
Try AutoZone and ask for 81413 - Spectre / 3 in. Aluminum Intake Mass Air Flow Sensor Adapter at $12.00. You may have to order it online.

*2.) MAF & sensor interchange
The 94-95 Mustang 5.0 MAF & sensor is also found on:
1995-94 Mustang 3.8L F2VF-12B579-A2A,
1994-92 Crown Victoria 4.6L F2VF-12B579-A2A,
1995-94 Mustang, Mustang Cobra 5.0L F2VF-12B579-A2A,
1994-92 Town Car 4.6L F2VF-12B579-A2A,
1994-92 Grand Marquis 4.6L F2VF-12B579-A2A,
Evidently the –A1A, -A2A, AA, etc. on the end of the part number is a minor variant that did not change the operating specs. You should be able to ignore it and have everything work good.
 
I had no idea the 94-95 mass air is larger and bolts right up to the current wiring, that sounds like the cheapiest solution for elminating a constriction point.
Also, if the explore intake and TB is good for 220+cfm, then is that all the air flow I would need for running CNC aluminum heads and something like a TFS1 cam?

As far as the fan getting enough power, are there any issues with a 3G alternator with pulleys installed?

I am definitely planning on an AL driveshaft in the future..thanks for the notes.
 
I had no idea the 94-95 mass air is larger and bolts right up to the current wiring, that sounds like the cheapiest solution for elminating a constriction point.
Also, if the explore intake and TB is good for 220+cfm, then is that all the air flow I would need for running CNC aluminum heads and something like a TFS1 cam?

As far as the fan getting enough power, are there any issues with a 3G alternator with pulleys installed?

I am definitely planning on an AL driveshaft in the future..thanks for the notes.

Check the airflow figures from your favorite head manufacturer and see how they compare against the 220 CFM figure. Most CNC heads will do more than 220 CFM. Tmoss can port the Explorer manifold to do more if you already spent your nickels and dimes on an Explorer setup and want to keep it.

The 3G will work fine with pulleys in most cases.

Be sure you read my remarks about the junkyard driveshaft and realize it is not the same strength as the popular FMS part.