SCT Chip and Xcal 2? Please Respond

Screamin' Demon · Jun 30, 2005

Ok, this might sound dumb but I already have a SCT chip for my car and was wondering if it is worth it to trade in for the Xcal 2? What would happen if I leave my SCT chip installed and plug in the Xcal 2? Double-chip? LOL.

Seriously, is it worth it and would I have to remove my SCT chip? Please, If anyone knows the answer please respond. Thanks.

Roger_4.6_96 · Jun 30, 2005

Xcalibrator 2 is the ****. Trade it in

csledd · Jun 30, 2005

Roger_4.6_96 said:
Xcalibrator 2 is the ****. Trade it in

Screamin' Demon · Jun 30, 2005

Lol. Id like to just go ahead and keep my chip if I can AND just add the Xcal 2...

posm6s · Jun 30, 2005

Screamin' Demon said:
Lol. Id like to just go ahead and keep my chip if I can AND just add the Xcal 2...

If you keep the chip, you'll have to send it back to a tuner for them to reburn it as you add more mods. There is no point for you to keep it and get the Xcal 2 because you can't use both at the sametime.

Just get the Xcal 2 and dump the chip.

04DarkShadowGT · Jul 1, 2005

They both do the same thing so I dont see why you should get the Xcal since you already have the chip.

The only benefit is you can download new tunes with the Xcal 2 instead of sending the chip, but is that worth an extra $375?

Yeah you can tweak with the Xcal 2 and datalog but still is it worth an extra 375.

Give Me TP · Jul 1, 2005

Keep the chip you already have. The XCal 2 only duplicates it's function, and can't be used along with it. Proper custom tuning requires the XCal 2 to be programmed just like the chip does, so why spend $$ twice for the same result?

WhiteStang · Jul 1, 2005

Give Me TP said:
Keep the chip you already have. The XCal 2 only duplicates it's function, and can't be used along with it. Proper custom tuning requires the XCal 2 to be programmed just like the chip does, so why spend $$ twice for the same result?

Its not the same....Duh, why would they sell 2 identical products.......I traded my chip for the Xcal2 2 weeks ago...Within 1 month the software will be out for you to be able to make significant changes......You can change gears, tire size, timing, idle, etc "yourself" without the cost of having to send you chip off to get recalibrated or drive to your local tuner....Also if you having problems your tuner will be able to email you a file or tell you what to change...I've made 2 changes to my nitrous tune in 2 weeks, quick & simple, phone call & email, done.....I'd still be waiting for the chip in the mail & take the risk of it being lost.....And if you have a chip, then you know you have to completely take the pcm out just to get to the d**m thing....This plugs in right under your dash to your odb port......Plus you can also do datalogging of hundreds of sensors, etc on any 95-up ODB2 vehicle......I'd say its worth every cent.......

WhiteStang · Jul 1, 2005

One or two trips to where every your closest tuner is, is worth it....I have to travel 5 hours to get my car on a dyno with SCT tuner....Its usually a stay over & a day lost.....Time + money.....

Give Me TP · Jul 1, 2005

WhiteStang said:
Its not the same....Duh, why would they sell 2 identical products.......I traded my chip for the Xcal2 2 weeks ago...Within 1 month the software will be out for you to be able to make significant changes......You can change gears, tire size, timing, idle, etc "yourself" without the cost of having to send you chip off to get recalibrated or drive to your local tuner....Also if you having problems your tuner will be able to email you a file or tell you what to change...I've made 2 changes to my nitrous tune in 2 weeks, quick & simple, phone call & email, done.....I'd still be waiting for the chip in the mail & take the risk of it being lost.....And if you have a chip, then you know you have to completely take the pcm out just to get to the d**m thing....This plugs in right under your dash to your odb port......Plus you can also do datalogging of hundreds of sensors, etc on any 95-up ODB2 vehicle......I'd say its worth every cent.......

Read carefully.

I said with proper custom tuning. You can not do correct custom tuning yourself with a XCal 2 or a Predator because they don't allow you all of the adjustment a tuner can do with the correct software. You could do so with an XCal 2 used along with the SCT Pro Racer Package and a wideband O2 monitor, but does Screamin' Demon want to spend $1200+ to do so? You get SCT custom tunes by e-mail, I get Predator custom tunes by e-mail, and I agree that a tuner is better to have than a chip if you don't already have one or the other, but since he already has a chip I would say use it and get it custom tuned.

QDRHRSE · Mar 1, 2006

You get SCT custom tunes by e-mail, I get Predator custom tunes by e-mail, and I agree that a tuner is better to have than a chip if you don't already have one or the other, but since he already has a chip I would say use it and get it custom tuned.[/QUOTE]

This is not entirely true. With the extreme tuning software that comes with your EXCAL2 you can make some changes....not as many as the pro racer package but you can change some minor stuff.

Don 95Vert · Mar 1, 2006

With the newest firmware on the XCal 2s you can datalog and make adjustments right on the screen - you don't need Xtreme Tune. The datalogging alone make them worth a lot more than the chip. For example, I've had customers buy an XCal 2, I tell them what to datalog when they get it. They then email me the datalog and I send them a revised tune file. And if the customer has a wideband, you can literally do an 'almost' dynotune via email. I even did a tune for a customer in Denmark this way, via phone and email while he was actually on the dyno. They'd tell me the numbers, I'd make adjustments and email the file to him. The car was dialed in pretty much perfectly. The Xcal 2 also reads and clears DTCs.

An XCal 2 will NOT work if a chip is in the J3 port. You need to remove it. If you do upgrade to an XCal 2, your dealer should be able to tranfer the custom dynotune file to the XCal 2 for you when he sells it to you. We do this all the time for people.

Don

Mike97gt · Mar 1, 2006

just for the datalogging alone i would get it.

datalogging is the most valueable info to have when you have a problem. many times on here my first question when somebody has a SEL or is running bad, is do you have a datalogger.

jstreet0204 · Mar 1, 2006

svttech76 said:
just for the datalogging alone i would get it.

datalogging is the most valueable info to have when you have a problem. many times on here my first question when somebody has a SEL or is running bad, is do you have a datalogger.

I agree. I see so many people on here posting problems and have a tuner in their sig, but have no idea how to use the datalogging to trouble shoot. It is extremely valuable information in the palm of their hand, but very ferw take the time to learn anything about it.

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